@Jasper:

your method seems to me a bit awkward, pylons used a module-level global
variable like DBSession almost everywhere and I guess I never had problems.

@Wichert: thanks, I'll check repoze.tm2, as for paster setup-app I relied on
what I read here:

http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-devel/browse_thread/thread/36aa6769ebda9e62

if there's an example somewhere of using paster setup-app with pyramid
please let me know

====

since we are discussing about paster:

what's a fine way to get in paster pshell (iPython) some variables already
set?

I was used (Pylons again) on first prompt I had at least myapp.model already
available as "model", the same for "Session", and I would willingly add also
some instances of my model too, I know how to get models, DBSession and so
on but I'd like to know how I could get them preloaded.

Thanks again
neurino


On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Wichert Akkerman <wich...@wiggy.net>wrote:

> On 5/23/11 12:23 , neurino wrote:
>
>>  > Creating tables and adding initial content is better done with paster
>> setup-app or another separate command.
>>
>> But setup-app is not present in pyramid.
>>
>
> setup-app is a PasteDeploy thing. You can use it with pyramid apps if you
> want to, but I would recommend using a paster command approach instead: much
> simpler and does not suffer from the many problems setup-app has.
>
>
>  I understand your point and I'm also going, in production, to move that
>> code in a setup script.
>>
>> Anyway then, having:
>>
>>     import transaction
>>
>> at the top of my models.py what do I have to take care when adding,
>> merging or removing content?
>>
>
> Personally I use a repoze.tm2 middleware to manage all my transactions.
> That makes everything Just Work, and you never have to worry about
> transactions again. I know other people prefer a more pyramid-specific
> approach of using Pyramid events to manage transactions.
>
>
>  And, back to my initial question:
>>
>> in Pylons I had a Session instance named "session" i used in my
>> controllers like
>>
>>     model.session.add(anything)
>>     model.session.commit()
>>
>> what I'm supposed to do now?
>>
>>     models.DBSession().add(anything)
>>
>
> That is the exact same thing. DBSession is just a SQLAlchemy ScopedSession
> object, same as your model.session object in a Pylons 1 project. You can use
> model.DBSession.add as well - SQLAlchemy will
> do the same thing.
>
>
>
>  I'm not used to instantiate & call "Class().method" that much and looks
>> me ugly but if it's the correct way to go with it...
>>
>
> If you do 'model.session.add' SQLAlchemy will internally do the same thing:
> it finds the current session for your thread and runs add on it.
>
>
> Wichert.
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