Hi Max, > Is it really necessarily? Is it because no one yet figured out how to > simplify things or this approach does provide some benefits?
Well, it's a simple case of trying to make things as simple as possible but leaving everything in there that a developer is actually going to use. If the default is too much for you there is also a pylons-minimal template in development. You can try it as it stands like this: easy_install -U "Pylons==dev" paster create --template=pylons_minimal TestProject Perhaps there is more we could do to reduce code in the default template though. > Now there is a pile code developer may never touch but the framework > still expects it to work and have no control over it. E.g. any changes > in framework' APIs should take this into account. That's true but because Pylons is made from middleware it is fairly easy to make API changes that don't affect existing code too much. > May be it's just me, but Robaccia(*) approach feels much better: you > start with a clean state and add cruft as needed. I remember Python > people ditching Java frameworks for being too verbose and bragging > about zero-configuration Python apps. I think you are preaching to the converted a bit here because most people on this list would agree with you! The Pylons developers have been pushing the WSGI standard and working hard to adapt existing code to work as middleware so that you can put together whatever configuration of tools you like, Robaccia being a good example. The whole point of our efforts on all the various projects we work on is to give you all this flexibility to produce your own setup *and* also to provide you with a useful default setup in Pylons that you can change if you like. Cheers, James --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pylons-discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
