On 2/28/07, Graham Higgins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On 28 Feb 2007, at 07:01, Mike Orr wrote:
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> > On Feb 27, 2007, at 12:58 PM, Christoph Haas wrote:
> >> AFAIK there is a plan to write a more complete handbook for Pylons at
> >> http://pylonshq.com/project/pylonshq/wiki/DocLayoutProposals
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> > I added a few things including an introduction/history, what are
> > sessions/templates, other deployment strategies (standalone
> > httpserver, mod_scgi + SWUP, mod_wsgi), and setting up a daemon.
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> One observation: the section on CRUD might need prefacing by a
> section on ORM in order to provide a grounding referent.
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> > if we're going to switch to Mako and ToscaWidgets, we should do it
> > now.  There's no reason to continue documenting a lame-duck system; it
> > just makes newbies' applications less forward-compatible.
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> +1 for this (but calling them "lame-duck" seems a bit harsh)

Sounds like a good idea, but I don't use either of those parts of
Pylons so my opinion doesn't matter much here :)

> > Whether it's in the main book or in a second book about optional
> > packages, we should describe Genshi, both because it's a
> > representative of the XML-parsed templates and because it has features
> > Myghty/Mako don't that users may need.
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> Another faint reason for including some treatment of Genshi is that
> the ToscaWidgets PylonsTWSample uses Genshi as the default widget
> template --- but that may change, of course.

As someone that's perfectly happy with Genshi + Pylons I'd say this is
a very good idea. Genshi works very well for us. It makes it very fast
for us to move from an XHTML mockup to working code, and our designers
are comfortable with the syntax for doing updates. They really like
that most of the time they can test and tweak templates without having
a web server installed or checking something in.

I'm not and have never been interested in Myghty/Mako and that
initially detracted me from Pylons. I didn't even try Pylons until I
saw a guide to using Genshi with Pylons. After trying it I immediately
decided to port my existing code and haven't looked back.

-bob

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