Re: Pylons Logo Design

[Dan]

Ben Bangert wrote: On Jun 1, 2007, at 7:21 AM, Dan wrote: I think you should consider changing domain names. I don't think the name Pylons is bad, just combined with the domain pylonshq.com it just doesn't stick. I'd suggest using pylonsframework.org for the following reasons: .org - Eludes to an open source/non-profit. If Pylons is open source/non-profit I think its a feature that you should mention to your visitors... I didn't see licensing information anywhere on the homepage? pylonsframework - Eludes to Pylons being a framework right in the domain. I'd click on a URL for pylonsframework.org before pylonshq.com. I think once we add some additional sitemap data, so that Google automatically displays the full description of our site (Pylons Framework....) the domain name won't matter much. At this point it would prolly be very bad to change domain names, since we could end up losing our top Google search result spot for "Pylons" which we currently have. With all due respect, you're thinking more like a computer than a human being.  The domain name is important to people and marketing.   A descriptive and easy to remember domain is good for people and name recognition/branding.  For example, if all you have is a blank page with two URL's, which one is more descriptive? http://pylonshq.com ? or http://pylonsframework.org ? Lets quickly take a closer look: pylonshq.com      - '.com' implies a commercial 'for profit' company     - 'pylons' could be either a structure for electrical lines or an orange cone... less than 1% of the world population is going to get the 'py' for python     - 'hq' could be short for headquarters for some people, but that's just guessing because its not mentioned on the homepage pylonsframework.org     - '.org' implies a non-profit organization commonly associated with open source software... definitely adds context     - 'pylons' still means nothing to 90% of people, but have potential     - 'framework' now that means something to your target audience... web developers!  definitely adds context Google places high emphasis on popularity (link backs, what people click on after getting search results) and the competition for the word 'pylons' isn't exactly going to be hard to beat... ever.  Google is a pretty smart tool.  It will figure out that 95% of people searching for 'pylons' will want the web framework and you'll still be on the top of the rankings.  Now the real trick is to get your Pylons to the top of a Google 'framework' search... adding framework to your domain should help placing you higher in that search, but not a replacement for getting people to actually click on it. Thanks for listening. By the way, I think the logo should be something with an orange cone... because its simple. I hate to mention the word, but 'screencasts' is almost a standard. It wouldn't hurt if someone could put one together. They're coming, and Jon R. actually has some together. Part of the new site redesign would highlight these and bring news of updates to a more visible front. But right now... we need a good logo. Something people would be happy to have on a t-shirt even. :) Cheers, Ben --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "pylons-discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to pylons-discuss@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/pylons-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---