Scott, Yes, Sarina Bromberg participated actively in crafting the new chapters "Getting Starting with Commands"
http://pymol.sourceforge.net/newman/user/S0210start_cmds.html and "Command Syntax and Atom Selections" http://pymol.sourceforge.net/newman/user/S0220commands.html#7 which are available as part of the new "Incentive" Manual, a draft of which can be found on http://pymol.sourceforge.net/newman/user/toc.html . Right now, it is not that different than the old manual. However, in the process of out-sourcing these two new chapters, I was forced to acknowledge that there was almost an order of magnitude difference between the amount of money I had available to spend on documentation, and the amount of money it would actually cost to pay a reasonably-priced professional to write the entire document. In dollar terms, a good manual set for something as complex as PyMOL is at best a high five-digit project, but could easily cost 2-3 times that. This realization was part of the driving force behind my decision to leap into the project full-time. Clearly I wasn't going to be able to raise sufficient funds from customers as an "uncommitted part-timer" with a program lacking sufficient documentation. Likewise, I wasn't going to be able to out-source preparation of documentation without sufficient funds. By going full-time, I have both internally assumed responsibility for making sure that PyMOL becomes a respectable and documented system, while also obtaining access to sufficient quantities of my time to get us past this "chicken/egg" stage in many areas. By committing myself fully to the project, I hope that more and more PyMOL users will find it within themselves to also commit something to the effort. So far, sponsorship has increased, but we are not yet at the point of sustainability. Either we need more users, or a higher participation rate. We need good docs and tutorials in order to get more users, or we need practical incentives to get higher participation. If enough funding comes in that we can again out-source, then we'll reach that happy documentation place sooner. But if not, we'll still eventually get there through my own efforts -- it'll just take longer... years instead of months. I'm also looking into alternate sources of funding which wouldn't force me to compromise the Open-Source business plan. Any and all leads are appreciated. The decision to place the new manual under a very gentle "incentive" status will hopefully lead to income which can further accelerate documentation. Details on the new manual's status can be found at: http://pymol.sourceforge.net/html/index.html The existence of this Incentive manual does not and should not preclude other third parties from writing their own documentation and distributing it freely on the internet. I see that as another reasonable way that we might get to a reasonable state of documentation for PyMOL -- in fact I'd prefer it. But if that doesn't happen, then we'll eventually get there anyway via economic incentives and my own stubborn efforts. Cheers, Warren -- mailto:war...@delanoscientific.com Warren L. DeLano Principal Scientist DeLano Scientific LLC Voice (650)-346-1154 Fax (650)-593-4020 -----Original Message----- From: Scott Classen [mailto:clas...@uclink.berkeley.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 4:38 PM To: Warren L. DeLano Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: PyMOL manual > My advice is not to try to figure out all this stuff by yourself, but > rather to try the new demos and then ask questions via the mailing > list. > Or, simply wait until I get some time later this month or next to > update > the documentation. T Warren, I thought you had recently hired a writer to work up a PyMol manual? How is this going? Do you have a projected release date for the new manual? Thanks, Scott ============================================== Scott Classen, Ph.D. clas...@uclink4.berkeley.edu University of California, Berkeley Department of Molecular & Cell Biology 237 Hildebrand Hall #3206 Berkeley, CA 94720-3206 LAB 510.643.9491 FAX 510.643.9290 ==============================================