Tony,

        Try reducing the hash_max variable by a factor of 2, 3, or 4.  The
problem with large spheres is that a separate hash entry is created for each
hash cell within the sphere -- that's technically wrong, but it is how
PyMOL's naïve algorithm currently works.  As a result, you can easily exceed
available RAM, which results in a crash.  

Cheers,
Warren


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pymol-users-ad...@lists.sourceforge.net 
> [mailto:pymol-users-ad...@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of 
> Tony Giannetti
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:01 PM
> To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [PyMOL] Creating cell surface
> 
> Thanks to Warren's help I was able to create a nice CGO 
> sphere that makes a convincing cell membrane.  And for most 
> of today I was even able to render molecules placed near the 
> membrane, AND it even created shadows on the CGO surface cast 
> by the molecules.
> 
> However, after a couple of hours it seems to have stopped working.
> Initially it would think about it and then crashn.  Now, 
> whenever I hit 'ray' when the large cgo sphere is on-screen 
> it automatically crashes PyMol.
> I'm doing this on our lab's dual G5 using MacPyMol.  I went 
> back to my laptop, which was rendering the sphere just fine 
> last night, and now it automatically crashes when I try to 
> render just the sphere.  I installed a fresh version of PyMol 
> on the G5 (by unpacking the archive again) and that didn't 
> help either, nor did rebooting the machine.
> 
> Any ideas?  I'm on a tad bit of a deadline and would like to 
> get this rendered soon, preferably with the shadows.  I don't 
> have the patched version of pov-ray at the moment and anyways 
> the output from PyMol was looking really good before it acted 
> all weird.
> 
> 
> On 5/10/04 1:12 PM, "Warren DeLano" 
> <war...@delanoscientific.com> was all
> like:
> 
> > Tony,
> > 
> > In order to enter multi-line Python code on the command 
> line, you need 
> > to use explicit end-of-line continuations.  Otherwise, PyMOL won't 
> > know where your Python code stops and PyMOL commands again begin.
> > 
> > from pymol.cgo import *
> > from pymol import cmd
> > 
> > set cgo_sphere_quality, 3
> > 
> > def cgo_sphere(x,y,z,r,name="cgo_sphere"): \
> >   # Create a CGO object \
> >   obj = [ \
> >    SPHERE, float(x), float(y), float(z), float(r) \
> >   ] \
> >   # Load it into PyMOL \
> >   cmd.load_cgo(obj,name)
> > 
> > # Add to PyMOL command language
> > cmd.extend("cgo_sphere",cgo_sphere)
> > 
> > # end Python, begin PYMOL commands
> > 
> > cgo_sphere 0,0,0,500,test
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > For example, I can paste the above directly into the PyMOL command 
> > line (on win32), in order to get a sphere on the screen.
> > 
> > A better alternative it to simply put all of that Python 
> code into a ".py"
> > file and "run" it from within PyMOL.
> > 
> > NOTE: PyMOL doesn't currently render large and small 
> objects together 
> > very efficiently, and there's precious little that you can 
> do about it 
> > at the present time.  Increasing hash_max won't help, though 
> > decreasing it can give a modest gain in performance.  
> Sticking exclusively to CPK can also help.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Warren
> > 
> > --
> > mailto:war...@delanoscientific.com
> > Warren L. DeLano, Ph.D.
> > Principal Scientist
> > DeLano Scientific LLC
> > Voice (650)-346-1154
> > Fax   (650)-593-4020
> > 
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: pymol-users-ad...@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> [mailto:pymol-users-ad...@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Tony 
> >> Giannetti
> >> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 12:25 PM
> >> To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> Subject: [PyMOL] Creating cell surface
> >> 
> >> Hey Fellow PyMolers,
> >>     I should be able to figure this out but I simply haven't after 
> >> much fiddling and googling.  I'm trying to create a cell 
> surface for 
> >> a cover figure and in Molscript I usually did this by making a PDF 
> >> file with a single atom, rendering it in CPK, and then blowing its 
> >> atom_radius way up to several thousand angstroms to create 
> a slightly 
> >> curved surface on which molecules could be positioned.
> >> 
> >> I'm trying this in PyMol and can't figure out the command sequence.
> >> Basically, how do I alter the radius for a single atom, especially 
> >> because I don't want all atoms I draw as a surface to have 
> the same 
> >> radius?
> >> 
> >> Alternatively I've been trying to do this with the CGO 
> utility using 
> >> one of Gareth's scripts I found on the web:
> >> 
> >> from pymol.cgo import *
> >> from pymol import cmd
> >> 
> >> def cgo_sphere(x,y,z,r,name="cgo_sphere"):
> >> 
> >>     # Create a CGO object
> >>     obj = [
> >>         SPHERE, float(x), float(y), float(z), float(r)
> >>     ]
> >> 
> >>     # Load it into PyMOL
> >>     cmd.load_cgo(obj,name)
> >> 
> >> # Add to PyMOL API
> >> cmd.extend("cgo_sphere",cgo_sphere)
> >> 
> >> 
> >> But in adding these lines sequentially to the PyMol 
> command line, or 
> >> running it as a script, it fails at:
> >> 
> >> def cgo_sphere(x,y,z,r,name="cgo_sphere"):
> >> 
> >> and I get the following error message
> >> 
> >> def cgo_sphere(x,y,z,r,name="cgo_sphere"):
> >> Traceback (most recent call last):
> >>   File
> >> "/Users/delwarl/pymol/products/MacPyMOL.app/pymol/modules/pymo
> >> l/parser.py",
> >> line 144, in parse
> >>     exec(com2[nest]+"\n",pymol_names,pymol_names)
> >>   File "<string>", line 1
> >>      def cgo_sphere(x,y,z,r,name="cgo_sphere"):
> >>                                                ^
> >>  SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Is there some other way the script is supposed to be used. .
> >> .I'm using
> >> MacPyMol 0.95.
> >> 
> >> Thanks for any tips/help.
> >>         Tony
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
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