Hi Folks,

Here are my conclusions about the nVidia graphic cards.

The benchmarks found on Tom's hardware web site show that the performances of the AGP8x FX 1100 are about the same as the PCIe FX 1300. Taking that assumption I just took the average spec out of the 3 given on nVidia's web page (see LINKS below).

*** This gives the following table: ***

Graphic card            FX 4400 FX 3400 FX 1400 FX 1300 FX 1100
Bus type                        PCIe            PCIe            PCIe            
PCIe            AGP 8x
Perf(rel to 1100)       1.97            1.73            1.65            1       
        1
Price(rel to 1100)      2.95            1.8             0.8             0.5     
        1
Ratio Perf/Price        0.66            0.96            2.06            2       
        1

(FX 1100 costs about 780 Euros)

These numbers are probably not extremely accurate, but the tendency shown in this table looks in pretty good agreement with the numerous specs reported on hardware.fr (see LINKS below; unfortunately this paper written in French, but charts and graphics are easy to catch).

They also look in agreement with the answers I got from our crystallographic bulletin boards (see QUOTES below).

*** CONCLUSION: we'll go for an FX 1400 ! ***

*** ABOUT RivaTuner (suggested by Wang Chern Hoe): ***
I'll keep that trick for my personal record and use, but we don't want to use any dual boot solution in the lab (at least not yet). For a whole lab solution I will agree with Cameron (cm...@ucsd.edu) who suggests to opt for a real hardware stereo card. But for personal purposes I find interesting to turn a Geforce 6800 into a Quadro and be able to run O, NOC and PyMol from the XP side, but I've read: - this will turn it into a Quadro 540 but not 4400 (COULD YOU CONFIRM THIS, WANG ?) - this could be done only on some graphic boards from UNIKA (without any reseller in France I think) - as asked Sabuj (sabuj.pattana...@vanderbilt.edu) what is the magic taht modify the pin connector for the emitter. Wang could you tell us how physically the connection with the emitter is made ?

*** LINKS ***
BENCHMARK RESULTS:

FX 1100, ATIfireGLx2(t):
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20040323/opengl-fx1100-x2t -08.html

FX 1300, FX 3400, ATIfireGLv5100:
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20040816/opengl-pcie-14.html

FX 1400, FX 3400, FX 4400, ATIfireGLv5100:
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/560-1/comparatif-7-cartes-3d-pro-pci- express.html

AND:

nVIDIA graphic cards specs AGP8x/PCIe
http://www.nvidia.fr/object/IO_11761_fr.html

*** QUOTES ***

[J Mesters; mest...@biochem.uni-luebeck.de]
We have two FX1100 (128 MB ram) up and running just fine under linux. The speed for openGL applications is more than satisfactory. .../... Only Pymol will benefit clearly from faster cards with more memory when rendering etc..

The Iiyama HM204DT is the best (reference class) monitor around with 142 kHZ and 200 Hz maximum! Great stereo quality. If that is too expensive, buy the Belinea 108035 with 125 kHz and 160 Hz maximum for half the price.
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[Doug Bailley; bail...@ncifcrf.gov]
Our "standard" linux workstation is as follows.

Dell Precision 370/380, Pent.4-3.6, 1GB RAM 120GB SATA, DVD+-RW, Quadro FX1400
NEC-Mitsubishi FP2141SB-BK 22" CRT
NuVision 60GX Wireless stereo emitter and glasses
RedHat Enterprise Linux WS.

For our usage, we did not see a significant difference in performance between the FX1400 and some of the 3xxx series Quadro products we tested to justify the higher cost.

The NEC-Mitsubishi FP2141SB-BK 22" CRT is an excellent monitor. Cannot comment on any others as the NEC is all that we use.
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[Kay Diederichs; kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de]
.../...
a) the nVidia FX3450 is a bit expensive (€1300); you won't notice a difference to a card of less than half the price (FX1300) in O.
.../...
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Thanks to all and to any other contributor that I would have forgotten,
Philippe

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