Thanks Warren. The drag feature works well - I can drag the cartoon to
the carbonyl.

It's not that I need high accuracy with regards to position, I just need
it to be aesthetically pleasing. So the solution you gave will work
fine.

Cheers,
James

On Sun, 2006-04-06 at 18:37 -0700, Warren DeLano wrote:
> James,
> 
> FYI: What you're trying to accomplish is impossible with PyMOL -- cartoons 
> only pass through C-alpha positions, not amide C or N.  Thus, the only sure 
> way to get the backbone carbonyl connected to the cartoon is to switch PyMOL 
> into Editing Mode and then ctrl-left-click-and-drag the carbon coordinate 
> into the path of the cartoon.  Another possible approach would be to make the 
> cartoon larger via the cartoon ..._length, ..._width, and ..._radius settings.
> 
> However, my personal view is that if you are close enough to care about amide 
> C & N's, then you shouldn't be using cartoons...they are little more than 
> artistic fancy.
> 
> Cheers,
> Warren
> 
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] 
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> > Of James Knight
> > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 6:28 PM
> > To: Robert Immormino
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [PyMOL] sticks don't touch backbone
> > 
> > Thanks for the reply, but no luck. It seems the backbone can 
> > be refined using cartoon_refine, but there is a limit to how 
> > far. Unfortunately in some cases the carbonyl (and the 
> > nitrogen as well) misses be a lot when the area of interest 
> > is zoomed in on. I guess I just have to play with the camera 
> > angle to make it look like the sticks are attached.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > James
> > 
> > On Sun, 2006-04-06 at 17:25 -0400, Robert Immormino wrote:
> > > James,
> > > 
> > > I don't know if this will fix your problem or not, but try:
> > > 
> > > cartoon_side_chain_helper
> > > 
> > > Also when smoothing is turned off I think the cartoon is forced 
> > > through the Calpha, and not through all of the backbone 
> > atoms, so it 
> > > is not surprising that the carbonyl misses by a little.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > 
> > > -bob
> > > 
> > > On 6/4/06, James Knight <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  I'm trying to get a stick from the "C" carbon that is 
> > part of the 
> > > > backbone to the "O" it is double bonded to. I use the 
> > command: "show 
> > > > sticks, resi 100 and name c+o". I get a stick that 
> > doesn't touch the 
> > > > backbone. If I turn off all smoothing (set 
> > cartoon_smooth_loops, 0; 
> > > > set cartoon_flat_sheets, 0), the stick still doesn't reach the 
> > > > backbone. It seems there is still a small amount of 
> > smoothing. Is there a way to change this?
> > > >
> > > >  James
> > > >
> > > >
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