well... it seems we have a couple of dependency recommendations:

        * ZCA
        * webob
        * grok
        * py.test

I have a vague understanding of why ZCA is advantageous... it gives us interfaces in python.

but why do we need grok again? or webob? or py.test?

I'm still trying to resolve problems that have come up from using python eggs and buildout and now we want to add more dependencies?

so.. my take on this would be to ask:
* what objectives of the PyOGP project are met by using { grok | webob | py.test } ?
        * what features do we lose by not using them?

i'm trying to figure out what webob gives us that we don't get from httplib.
what's the advantage of using py.test over pyunit?
why do we need an application server framework?

that being said...

i can see the advantages of making PyOGP work with grok, but that seems to me to be a sub-project. It just seems that if we _need_ an application server framework in order to make PyOGP work, then there's something seriously wrong with OGP.

-cheers
-m/∞

P.S. - where did you list the reasons to use grok again?

On Jul 18, 2008, at 5:28 AM, Christian Scholz wrote:

Hi!

I am just wondering how we get to a decision about grok?

Do we vote or do we first discuss a month about a governance model? ;-)

If we vote I vote +1 for all the reasons I have been giving recently.

Let's unblock this thing!

-- Christian



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