Erm, I'll revise that. The thesis of the talk is that rpython has to place 
restrictions on the use of types, and I leave discussing the annotator off to 
the term paper I'll be presenting. The purpose of this talk is a half-hour 
exposition of what we've been doing this semester, which basically makes it a 
promo for the term paper. 

Alex


On Dec 3, 2011, at 3:31 PM, Benjamin Peterson wrote:

> 2011/12/3 Alexander Golec <[email protected]>:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm a student at Columbia University, and I'm taking a graduate course with 
>> Alfred Aho, the author of the dragon book, on advanced compilers techniques. 
>> I've been researching the pypy project in general, and rpython in 
>> particular, and I'd like to ask you guys for some feedback on the current 
>> sketch of my presentation. Aho has mentioned on several occasions that he is 
>> very excited to receive my talk, and I'd like to get some feedback from you 
>> guys about it before I put it forward to him.
>> 
>> So then, my talk will discuss rpython's approach to translation, and here is 
>> the current outline:
>> 
>>  - Compiling python to C is easy: just inline the implementation of every 
>> opcode handler durr hurr hurr
>>  - Ok, seriously, can you do it in a performant manner?
>>  - Python has some semantics that make this difficult, in particular:
>>    - opcodes are type-agnostic
>>    - opcodes are high-level, they do high-level things with high-level 
>> arguments. eg. the BUILD_CLASS opcode
>>    - opcodes include namespace operations
>>  - This type-agnostic bit is the real tricky part because C requires all 
>> expressions to have a type, while python does not
>>  - Vanilla cartesian product type inference doesn't really work because the 
>> number of types is undecidable
>>  - rpython gets around this by imposing a restriction on dynamic type 
>> creation.
>>  - The details of the annotator are omitted due to time constraints
> 
> So you're not going to detail
> 
>> 
>> So then, the crux of my talk is the type annotator.
> 
> about the crux of your talk?
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Benjamin

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