On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 8:30 PM, holger krekel <hol...@merlinux.eu> wrote:
> Hi Maciej, Armin,
>
> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 14:03 +0200, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Due to impressive work by Ronan Lamy, we're now able to split RPython
>> and PyPy. Note that the fact of splitting this is not up to
>> discussion, however, how we go about it is. During discussions with
>> Armin we came up with the following plan:
>>
>> * We make a copy of pypy repo called rpython. it'll still live under
>> pypy team on bitbucket.
>>
>> * We'll rename toplevel package of pypy to rpython, for the rpython
>> part. Since we need to change ALL THE IMPORTS, we can do refactorings
>> of imports now. Proposed changes:
>>
>>   * to be moved from pypy to rpython: annotation, translator, rlib
>>   * pypy.config must be split somehow, same for tool, bin and for doc
>>   * move pypy.rpython namespace to rpython.rtyper
>>   * move pypy.rpython.lltypesystem to rpython.lltypesystem, same for ootype
>>   * pypy.rpython.memory becomes rpython.gc
>>   * pypy.objspace.flow becomes rpython.flowspace
>>   * testrunner and dotviewer can become independent packages
>>   * _pytest stays with pypy, however for rpython you can use whatever
>> version of py.test you have installed. rpython test suite should also
>> however be runnable under current contents of _pytest
>>
>> * RPython will come with setup.py and be a "normal" python package
>
> great stuff!
>
> Samuele's comments also make sense to me as well (rpython.typer etc.).
>
> Will there be a setup.py with pypy to automatically install perequisites
> (such as RPython, possibly other bits)?  FWIW, I think it could help to
> eventually allow people more easily maintain modular rpython-level pypy
> modules by depending on a specific pypy version and declaring an
> entry-point in order to be automatically picked up by the pypy
> translation process.  This way one could install multiple pypy-MODULE*
> packages, then cause a pypy build and all those modules would become
> part of the translated pypy-c.  (happy to help with this and relate my
> experiences if wanted).  It's not binary compatibility but would be
> a way to have a user choose modules without having to dive into
> translation target scripts etc.
>
> best,
> holger

IMO PyPy should not come with setup.py (unlike RPython). The main
reason why is that PyPy is not a python package - after all python
setup.py install will not do what you think it'll do. I think RPython
will be the only dependency really.
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