On May 13, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Armin Rigo <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Donald, > > On 13 May 2014 13:18, Donald Stufft <[email protected]> wrote: >> The idea behind ensurepip is that instead of shipping pip, you ship a >> bootstrap >> which will install pip for you. > > I see why you'd want this in CPython 3.x, but the reasons for > supporting this are much less clear to me with PyPy2. I doubt that > pip would suddenly require an urgent upgrade of its installed version, > which cannot wait until the next official PyPy release. But I don't > see the drawback of having ensurepip available as well, so I guess we > can have both that and a pre-installed pip.
Because released versions stick around for a long time. 2.2.1 ships with Ubuntu 14.04, people are going to use that version for a long time. And actually If you don’t keep it independently upgradeable then testing pip on PyPy will become a lot more difficult. > > About virtualenv, if it's as simple as providing one standard script > in our binaries for the user that doesn't have it already installed > for CPython from his Linux distribution (Windows users, looking at > you)... then I really don't see why we shouldn't. > > > A bientôt, > > Armin. ----------------- Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA
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