Hi Eric,

You're right - 2.2.1 is long-in-the-tooth but it's the version shipped in
the Raspian distribution.  I'll see if I can get the RPIF to upgrade the
distro to PyPy 2.6 and I'll give it a go myself too.

Andy  

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Driggers [mailto:admall...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 01 July 2015 17:16
To: Andy Baker
Cc: PyPy Developer Mailing List
Subject: Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 2.2.1 performance on Raspian

Unless I am missunderstanding, isn't pypy 2.2.1 rather old? Have you tried a
more up-to-date version first? (I seem to see current stable is 2.6.0 and
nightly is 2.7.0-alpha0) My memory is that between 2.3 and 2.4 there was
some armhf work done, and that between 2.3 and 2.5 a whole pile of stuff was
done that improved pypy -> C (mostly to help cffi, but helped CAPI and
ctypes a bit too IIRC)

It is still probably a good idea to see about using cffi (and you can use
cffi on cpython as well!) but low hanging fruit and all that :D

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Andy Baker <a...@pistuffing.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi Armin,
>
> Thanks for the insight.  I'll have a look in more detail to port the 'C'
> modules away from the CPython C API to CFFI.  The performance tests I 
> was doing were about 10000 loops of reading sensors (the Cpython C API
> libraries) along with 1000 loops of arithmatic / trigonometry 
> processing the sensor data.  I guess the "only 2.5 times slower" is 
> the balance between the improved math(s) performance and the reduced
sensor performance.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: armin.r...@gmail.com [mailto:armin.r...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of 
> Armin Rigo
> Sent: 01 July 2015 15:33
> To: Andy Baker
> Cc: Cory Benfield; PyPy Developer Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [pypy-dev] pypy 2.2.1 performance on Raspian
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> Using the CPython C API is very slow on PyPy.  If your program is 
> mostly spending its time issuing calls via the CPython C API, then getting
"only"
> 2.5x slower is already good :-/  CFFI is much, much faster on PyPy.  
> If you don't want to rewrite your CPython C API modules (even though 
> you said they are very thin layer, which means it shouldn't be much 
> work), then you're better off with CPython.
>
> Additionally, make sure to read
> http://pypy.readthedocs.org/en/latest/faq.html#how-fast-is-pypy and to 
> multiply the time estimates given there by 5 or 10: Raspberry Pi is 
> much slower than desktop PCs.
>
>
> A bientôt,
>
> Armin.
>
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