Hi Matti,

it has definitely been a while!

Sorry for the late response, I was a bit busy at work. Yes I would love to see 
my code finally put into action!

At the moment I could only contribute by reviewing changes or consulting the 
development, as my main topic of research at my current employer (AIT) is 
telehealth / digital health, not language development, and we are quite busy 
with that right now. 

But as we are using Django and, to a limited extend, also some extension 
modules, like NumPy, for it, there might be a chance for a cooperation. Either 
directly, or with one of our customers / spin offs. I can keep you updated on 
that, just don‘t expect anything to happen too soon.

Just give me a few days to set up my dev machine again and I will get back to 
you with regards to your merge and your changes to the code. I don’t know if I 
can make it before Christmas, but maybe during the holidays.

Greetings,
Stefan

> Am 16.11.2022 um 11:50 schrieb Matti Picus <matti.pi...@gmail.com>:
> 
> 
>> On 4/2/19 10:36, Stefan Beyer wrote:
>> Hey everyone!
>> 
>> Those of you who attended or followed one of the last two winter sprints in 
>> Leysin might know me, the others probably won't. I'm (still) a Master's 
>> student writing my thesis on PyPy's current issue with cross-heap cycles 
>> when using cpyext. The main point is, that they are not collected and stay 
>> around as floating garbage, even if they are not reachable any more. Correct 
>> me if I'm wrong, but I didn't notice anyone else working on that topic 
>> (and/or committing something) since I've picked it up two years ago (yeah, I 
>> know, that long ago...).
>> 
>> I saw that you would be working on "cpyext performance and completeness" 
>> during the current winter sprint this week and thought that this might also 
>> concern my thesis. So I thought I'll give you an update.
>> 
>> I recently pushed my current (non-optimized, breaking-some-tests, but more 
>> or less working) implementation of the "CPython-style" GC-extension for 
>> cpyext. It is still in an early stage and not all cases (legacy and 
>> non-legacy-finalizers, weakrefs) are handled. However, I picked up some pace 
>> during the last couple of weeks and I'm determined to finish this 
>> implementation during the following weeks (some quirks with the tests have 
>> been haunting me, but I think I figured most of them out by now). After 
>> that, I will implement a second alternative implementation (to compare to, 
>> mostly for the sake of my thesis), which will take some more time. I also 
>> added a couple of fancy test cases (the so called "dot-tests"), so that we 
>> can test complex object graphs a little bit easier (and also because it was 
>> kind of cool to have another language inside PyPy/RPython, even if it was 
>> only for the tests...), with more test cases to come (the current ones are a 
>> bit messy). None of the new changes concerning low-latency applications are 
>> currently integrated, but that should not be too hard.
>> 
>> I guess it won't make much sense for me to join you at this year's winter 
>> sprint, especially as I won't be able to get there before Thursday, but I 
>> might be able to join you over the IRC channel (or some other form of 
>> communication if you like). If there is anything that is worth discussing 
>> please let me know! Also feel free to comment on my code, but beware that I 
>> might change some things once I try to do some optimizations (probably not 
>> many, but at least fix the worst issues) and make it a little bit more 
>> readable. You can find my code on the cpyext-gc-cycle 
>> branch.<https://bitbucket.org/pypy/pypy/commits/branch/cpyext-gc-cycle>
>> 
>> Looking forward to hearing from you!
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> Stefan
>> 
> 
> Hi Stefan. It has been a while, I hope all is good by you.
> 
> 
> Recently there was some interest in looking at the work you did in the 
> cpyext-gc-cycle branch toward getting it merged into PyPy. Did you ever get 
> any further than the published code? I merged the current py3.8 branch into 
> cpyext-gc-cycle and immediately ran into problems (see below).
> 
> 
> It would be great to keep pushing this forward. Would you like to pick this 
> up again or review changes as needed?
> 
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Matti
> 
> 
> 
> N.B: PyUnicodeObject has tp_itemsize==0 when in reality it sometimes 
> allocates extra room for data [0]. My fix in [1] didn't help.
> 
> [0] https://foss.heptapod.net/pypy/pypy/-/issues/3772
> 
> [1] 
> https://foss.heptapod.net/pypy/pypy/-/commit/2d53e90b42a803bfac8ca1fe7b8f70433deed89e
> 
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