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process. This one fell a little short… a good try though! :-/

> On 4. Mar 2025, at 18:40, Jamima Tariqa via pypy-dev <pypy-dev@python.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hey Miro,
> 
> I completely understand your frustration with tests that run but don’t 
> actually fail the build—it’s like checking a burger’s freshness by looking at 
> it but never taking a bite. I recently decided to put PyPy to the test on my 
> own website, https://costcofoodcourtmenu.com/, to see if it could improve 
> performance, reduce execution times, and handle caching more efficiently.
> 
> How I Tested PyPy on My Website
> Setup & Configuration:
> 
> Installed PyPy 3.10 alongside my standard CPython environment.
> Configured it to work with my WordPress backend, focusing on caching plugins 
> (LiteSpeed Cache, Perfmatters) and the JSON-LD schema generation.
> Used benchmarking tools to measure request handling speed and memory usage.
> Benchmarking & Load Testing:
> 
> Ran multiple performance tests on key scripts that power my website’s 
> real-time food court menu updates.
> Used ApacheBench (ab) and wrk to simulate high traffic loads.
> Compared execution time for my custom scripts under both CPython and PyPy.
> The Results
> ✅ The Good:
> 
> PyPy drastically improved execution time on long-running scripts. JSON-LD 
> schema generation, which took ~1.8s under CPython, dropped to ~0.9s under 
> PyPy—almost 2x faster!
> Reduced memory footprint when handling large datasets, especially for 
> scraping competitor menus.
> WordPress REST API responses showed a 20-25% speed increase on backend 
> queries.
> ❌ The Issues:
> 
> Some third-party WordPress plugins had compatibility issues with PyPy (likely 
> due to C extensions).
> Certain Django-based admin panel scripts crashed due to failed test cases 
> similar to what you observed—notably with test_getsitepackages.
> Build process didn’t halt on test failures, which made debugging harder. Some 
> errors only surfaced in logs.
> What This Means for PyPy Testing in Fedora
> Your concern is 100% valid—if test failures don’t fail the build, we’re 
> flying blind. In my case, some tests silently failed, leading to unexpected 
> behavior in production. Here’s what I think should be done:
> 
> Make test failures break the build—otherwise, we risk shipping unstable 
> packages.
> Classify and document expected failures (e.g., known compatibility issues).
> Automate reporting for failures that need upstream fixes instead of ignoring 
> them.
> Testing should be a safety net, not an afterthought. I’d love to hear how you 
> plan to tackle this on Fedora. If there’s a structured way to report or debug 
> failures, I’m happy to contribute my findings!
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