Are we not able to just migrate all of the old website content onto the main Qt website in the longer term? Hosting a HTTP 301 'moved permanently'-issuing website to keep old links alive indefinitely would be very cheap.
On 30 April 2012 18:39, Hugo Parente Lima <[email protected]> wrote: > On Monday, April 30, 2012 10:30:46 AM Srini Kommoori wrote: > > I would like to propose S3/github for website hosting. It is pretty easy > to > > setup and we can automate to push the code/html pages very easily. > > I agree, github for website hosting. > About the tarballs, we have tags on git for each release, so IMO tarballs > are > just another way of offer the same information and we can discard if it's > causing troubles. > > > Here is my preferred service list: > > S3/github for all static pages. > > Blog - Blogger/Tumblr with multi user submits. > > Wiki - [No change] Seems like already integrated with Qt main site. > > Code - [No change] gitorious > > > > I can help and sponsor for the expenses(if any) related to the migration. > > > > thanks, > > -Srini > > > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Erik Janssens > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > We have a professional Weebly account, > > > (http://www.weebly.com/) and can offer a site account for > > > this purpose. > > > > > > A Weebly site can host web pages + images + forms. But it's > > > not suited to offer source or binary packages for download. > > > > > > The downside of using Weebly is that the site should be rebuild > > > from scratch, something I estimate to be a couple of hours work > > > for someone experienced with CSS, html. > > > > > > The upside being that it's very easy to maintain. > > > > > > Just let me know if this would be interesting... > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Erik > > > > > > On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 14:45 +0300, Matti Airas wrote: > > > > Hi list, > > > > > > > > There's one final thing in the PySide migration to Qt add-on: the > > > > website. I've been trying to have the migration arranged, but > progress > > > > has been very slow. Also, May 3 is my last work-day at Nokia, so that > > > > complicates things further. > > > > > > > > PySide is currently hosted at a Virtual Machine provided by Nokia IT, > > > > which has made it easy because there have not been any fees or > bandwidth > > > > quotas (and the connectivity has been quite excellent). > Unfortunately, > > > > that VM is leased only until end of June, so arrangements need to be > > > > made pretty soon. > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, Qt Project is unwilling to provide a virtual machine > for > > > > PySide, and therefore a direct migration of the VM is not feasible. > They > > > > have proposed that they can host the static content (binaries, > > > > documentation & doc packages) which account for vast majority of the > > > > traffic anyway. Then, the current WordPress site contents (which > isn't > > > > much any longer, anyway) could be moved to the wiki, with a > possibility > > > > to have a static landing page as the home page. The news blog would > then > > > > need to be migrated to any free 3rd-party blogging platform such as > > > > wordpress.com. This is probably doable and something that the > project > > > > could live with, but it does require additional effort and decrease > the > > > > level of service somewhat, both for the administrators (no access to > WP > > > > authoring tools) and for the end-users (URLs for binaries and docs > > > > change, blog aggregation needs to be updated). In the long term, this > > > > would be the approach requiring the least amount of maintenance. > > > > > > > > Another alternative which could be feasible is to have a VM elsewhere > > > > and Qt Project would just point the DNS there. The VM requirements > are > > > > not huge: the current VM is a single-core one Xeon 2.5 GHz with 2 GB > of > > > > allocated memory and 40 GB of disk space. However, the site generates > > > > quite some traffic - in April, 120 GB, and the number has been > > > > increasing at a steady pace. Also, having a separate VM would > require a > > > > dedicated admin who would be willing to maintain the VM, take > backups, > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > I would like to hear your opinions on this one. In the first option, > the > > > > up front work and changes would be bigger but the long-term effort > > > > lower, and no external costs would be incurred. In the latter option, > > > > the migration would be less painful but having the VM would require > more > > > > maintenance in the future, and recurring payments would occur. > > > > > > > > Also, I'd like to call for volunteers to help with the migration and > the > > > > future maintenance. As said, my work obligation at Nokia is ending > and > > > > while I'm not vanishing altogether, it'd be helpful if someone else > > > > could take the lead. Srini, you volunteered for the webmaster and > > > > wikimaster duties in February - although this might not be what you > had > > > > in mind, would you still be interested? > > > > > > > > Also, if a separate VM is desired, a sponsor is needed for that. I > > > > wonder if any companies would be interested in providing that, for a > > > > modest logo or banner visibility on the web site? A basic 3rd-party > VM > > > > with that amount of traffic would cost some 40-50 EUR/USD a month. > Not a > > > > huge sum, but I wouldn't feel happy paying it out of my own pocket, > > > > especially with the steadily increasing traffic. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Matti Airas > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > PySide mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/pyside > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > PySide mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/pyside > > _______________________________________________ > PySide mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/pyside > > -- Alexander Jones Double Negative R&D www.dneg.com
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