To a point I agree about focusing on PySide, but it doesn't hurt to cover (at 
least cursorily) some elementary Python as well. Mark Summerfield's excellent 
book "Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt" 
(http://www.qtrac.eu/pyqtbook.html) doesn't dwell on basics, but it does cover 
things.

In fact, one of the best things IMO would be if he adapted that book to PySide. 
Regrettably, I doubt he has the time to do so 
(http://www.qtrac.eu/pyqtbook.html#pyside).

I'm coming from PyQt so I'm not a *complete* newbie, but there is a real 
advantage to having the content in one place rather than being directed to 
other tutorials (not to mention the problem with links going stale).

Tim Doty

On Apr 2, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Aaron Richiger <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello Al and Marc!
> 
> Many thanks for your offer, good tutorials are always essential for a popular 
> project. I just wanted to have a look at your tuts, but the top five results 
> of a google search after 
> "pyside simplicissimus tutorial" 
> directed me to dead links. So, this would be a good starting point:)
> 
> We also do not have to reinvent the wheel, there are many examples coming 
> with pyside already, have a look at them, you could probably use some of 
> them, but enrich them with comments and explanations in your HTML. 
> 
> Marcs offer sounds great! It's always great to have "customers" helping 
> designing the "products", because we sometimes can't imagine what's needed or 
> missing for beginners. Having some newbies to test the tutorials would be 
> great I think! 
> 
> Just one note, I think, your tutorials should not cover general python stuff 
> but just PySide related stuff. There are plenty of good python tuts out 
> there, we only need more PySide tuts. I know, that many of the PySide newbies 
> are also python newbies (as Marc), but you could place some links to good 
> python tuts at the beginning or start page of the tutorial and if you use 
> some non-obvious python magic give another link to the specific explanation 
> of this python feature (e.g. when you first use list comprehension). Our 
> tutorials should focus on the important (=PySide) stuff!
> 
> Happy coding!
> Aaron
> 
> Am 02.04.2013 23:41, schrieb Marc Hankin:
>> Hi.  I'm a python newbie and a pyside newbie.
>> I've gone through the zetcode tutorial and the simplicitimus (or whatever it 
>> is called), and I still feel crippled in using pyside.
>> I used to teach law at a law school and I like to think about pedagogical 
>> issues.
>> So, if you folks want to try out some of your tutorials on me and get my 
>> questionable feedback about how to improve your tutorials, I'd be very 
>> pleased with the opportunity to give you feedback ... and I confess, I also 
>> would like to learn from you.
>> 
>> It's really wonderful to follow your emails.  The open source python/pyside 
>> community is so giving/altruistic that it is fun to follow your emails.  I 
>> wish I could occupy myself with this stuff full time and never see the nasty 
>> interior of a courtroom again.
>> 
>> Anyway, thanks again,
>> 
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>> 
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>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:23 PM, lndn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Algis Kabaila <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I am in the process of porting the tutorial to PySide and Python 3.x. If 
>> there are no objections, I would like to post it in the PySide newbie 
>> tutorial section in a similar style to PySideSimplicissimus:
>>  
>> From wiki/PySideTutorials link to new page PySideSimple
>> from PySideSimple links to probably 4 separate stage pages with return to 
>> PySideSimple, which in turn returns to PySideTutorials.
>>   
>> Al (aka OldAl)
>> 
>> Hi Al, the newbie tutorials are a great idea.  The PySideSimplicissimus 
>> series were well-written and easy to follow.  
>> 
>> What modules do you plan on covering in these new tutorials?  The tutorials 
>> we currently have are great but it's not comprehensive in covering more Qt 
>> modules.  Here's hoping to see more modules covered in newer tutorials.  
>> 
>> Thanks!
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