I think introspection is still a fairly uncommon area for most
programmers,even professional software engineers. Like many things Qt does,
it has leveraged introspection to great benefit, but there's no requirement to
actually know about or understand introspection in order to use Qt(either via
C++ or through PySide).Until it comes as a standard in a mainstream
language,like C++, I don't think you will see widespread understanding or
appreciation of its power.
And if it's any consolation, I appreciate what you've done, Chris. :)
On 9/23/2017 9:55 PM, Christian Tismer wrote:
Bob, you are right. The __signature__ object is a true object for
introspection and you can directly use it to build a function
call programmatically or find default arguments. Not as strings
but as life objects.
I think that is a pretty unique feature. I know only of Cython
who creates signature objects from PyCFunctions. Therefore I expected
more enthusiastic reactions, the feature was very hard to implement.
And sure, the doc strings could be derived from it.
Probably I should have pointed people at PEP 362 ff.
Cheers -- Chris
On 23.09.17 04:49, Bob Hood wrote:
I could be wrong, because I'm not familiar with the "__signature__"
attribute, but I believe it is intended to facilitate /introspection/ of
classes and methods. When Christian said "prints", I think he just
meant you get to see what the attribute holds, not that it should be
used as documentation.
You could programmatically access the attributes data, and make run-time
use of it. You can't really do that with the help() output unless you
want go to great lengths to parse it.
Sorry if I'm way off here.
On 9/22/2017 8:36 PM, Zhao Lee wrote:
Sorry, I just feel the feature is just like what help() function do in
Python
https://docs.python.org/3/library/functions.html#help
an example with PyQt5
from PyQt5.QtWidgets import QApplication
help(QApplication.startTimer)
Help on built-in function startTimer:
startTimer(...)
startTimer(self, int, timerType: Qt.TimerType = Qt.CoarseTimer) -> int
在2017年09月22 16时42分, "Christian Tismer"<tis...@stackless.com>写道:
Hi,
please re-submit your reply in a readable way.
I could read it locally, but the mailing list does not
have a readable answer from you, just my copied text.
Can you please come up with more than just "why not?"?
I need a proposal how the help should look like.
Thanks in advance -- Chris
On 22.09.17 07:07, Zhao Lee wrote:
> why not?
>>>> help(PySide2.QtWidgets.QGraphicsAnchorLayout.addAnchors)
>>>> help(PySide2.QtWidgets.QGraphicsAnchorLayout)
>
>
>
> 在2017年09月21 21时04分, "Christian Tismer"<tis...@stackless.com
<mailto:tis...@stackless.com>>写道:
>
>
> Hi friends,
>
> there is the new signature module for PySide2.
> It adds the __signature__ attribute to all PySide2
> functions and constructors.
>
> Example usage:
>
> >>>
PySide2.QtWidgets.QGraphicsAnchorLayout.addAnchors.__signature__
> >>> PySide2.QtWidgets.QGraphicsAnchorLayout.__signature__
>
> will print all annotations, defaults and return values.
>
> The feature supports Python 2.7 and Python 3.4 and up.
> See further info at
>
> https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/PYSIDE-510
>
>
https://github.com/pyside/pyside2-setup/blob/5.6/sources/shiboken2/libshiboken/signature.cpp
>
>
https://github.com/pyside/pyside2-setup/blob/5.6/sources/shiboken2/libshiboken/signature.cpp
>
> Cheers -- Chris
>
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