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Subject:        Re: [pytest-dev] ANN: pytest-external-blockers - prototype
released
Date:   Wed, 19 Oct 2016 17:27:42 +0200
From:   Ronny Pfannschmidt <i...@ronnypfannschmidt.de>
To:     Floris Bruynooghe <f...@devork.be>, Ronny Pfannschmidt
<rpfan...@redhat.com>
CC:     pytest-dev <pytest-dev@python.org>



On 19.10.2016 17:21, Floris Bruynooghe wrote:
> On 4 October 2016 at 18:18, Ronny Pfannschmidt <rpfan...@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> i'm happy to announce the release of pytest-external-blockers [0]
>> it was created in order to be able to semantically track for what reasons a
>> test was skipped
>>
>> a normal `pytest.skip` doesn't offer a semantic difference between "skipped
>> for a local reason" and "skipped for a external reason"
>>
>> so we choose to pick a new verb.
>> that way every dynamic "skip" that happens for a external reason (like
>> database down, known to be broken tests, unavailable network service) can be
>> identified.
>>
>> In future i want to extend this concept to xfail.
>>
>> I'm hoping for some harsh critique :)
> This plugin is essentially trying to extend the possible outcomes, but
> it needs to piggyback the skip exception for integration with the core
> test running logic?  It would be nice if you could subclass the
> exception from a more generic pytest.OutcomeException or so instead.
> Otherwise I think I don't dislike what the plugin itself does too much
> ;-)
that simply isn't/wasn't exposed at the time
also the py.test internals are completely riddled with implicit
expectations about outcomes,
so much that it is scary

i'd love to be able to spell things more granular in different manners
as well

-- Ronny

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