Hi everyone,

i would like to break open a number of limitations we have in the collection system.

1. parametrize is tied painfully into Python Items

I want to finish my experiment for function definitions and generalize them

This would mean that instead of multiple python collectors invoking parametrize internally to functions,
we would collect function definitions.

This would be represented in the collection tree instead of just being a implementation detail of the python generate_tests hook

the generate_tests hook would generalize so that it would apply to any "definition" not just a Python Function Definition.

(im torn between keeping item or intoducing a Parameterization Node, aining insights on that will have to wait until definition is part of the collection tree)


2. pytests unawareness of tests in packages that may/must install vs tests in local test folders create painful breakages with doctests/tests inside of packages that must install/reinstall for testruns


i'd like to enable a basic awareness of installed tests vs local tests vs editable tests (and fail pytest if installed tests differ from the local files)

this also includes better awareness of paths/meta paths and pep420


3. testsuites for reuse or purposes like system testing cannot natively be shipped as python packages,

collecting them creates painful effects wrt local vs remote filenames as well as collection paths vs import paths


it should be possible to have testsuites that ship as pytohn packages and to parametrize/configure them.


for that i would like to propose a system building on top of the packaging awareness of pytest, and extending it with mechanisms to either call defined testsuites and/or referring to external testuites and including configured versions of those in current testruns

exact mechanisms for configuration/nesting/"testsuite cycles" and more are yet to be determined


but examples i'd like to support are stuff like having tools and frameworks provide basic tests for stuff like "base behaviors of well behaved plugins of a framework", "sanity tests for features of of framework plugins"


i'd love to get inputs/considerations and concerns as i'll focus on those topics in order in the next few months.


-- Ronny

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