On 4/6/06, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't want to discourage people from working out their own ideas, > but a lot of the stuff that's being discussed here about protocol > adaptation is already implemented in PyProtocols.
That's great. I believe that if we derive things from first principles here and arrive at the same choices as PyProtocols, we haven't wasted anybody's time; rather, we've (a) educated everyone who participated a whole lot on how to build a good dynamic function overloading package; (b) validated the choices you made in PyProtocols; (c) explained a lot of the warts in PyProtocols. That to me seems an invaluable contribution, and I expect it's easier to do it this way than to try and understand PyProtocols by attempting to understand its code and docs. Lots of people learn by doing rather than by seeing. I'm one of them. For example, I still owe you an update to the examples in PEP 342. One reason I haven't done this is that after starting from first principles, after a few days I arrived at something very similar to your trampoline example. For me, the *only* way to understand the ready-made trampoline code that you aput in the PEP was to try to create a similar thing from scratch, and evolve it until it had the same functionality. I still have the 3 or 4 evolutionary steps I made in a directory on an old laptop. Without the first few steps I wasn't able to understand the rationale behind the design of the completed example. I expect that many others have the same problem with that example. (Hands please; who here understands example 3 in PEP 342?) At the moment I'm doing the same for overloadable functions. However, instead of doing it in the privacy of a hotel room in a temp directory on a disconnected laptop, I'll blog about it. There'll be a lot of thinking aloud, a couple of dead alleys and red herrings, and every once in a while I'll have to buy a clue from PyProtocols. But I really see no other way to do it; when I look at the completed PyProtocols my eyes just start glazing over. -- --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) _______________________________________________ Python-3000 mailing list Python-3000@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-3000 Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-3000/archive%40mail-archive.com