Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ivan Krstić wrote:
> > Jean-Paul Calderone wrote:
> >> http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/browser/sandbox/itamar/cppreactor/fusion
> > 
> > This is the same Itamar who, in the talk I linked a few days ago
> > (http://ln-s.net/D+u) extolled buffer as a very real performance
> > improvement in fast python networking, and asked for broader and more
> > complete support for buffers, rather than their removal.
> > 
> > A bunch of people, myself included, want to use Python as a persistent
> > network server. Proper support for reading into already-allocated
> > memory, and non-copying strings are pretty indispensable for serious
> > production use.
> 
> A mutable bytes type with deque-like performance characteristics (i.e O(1) 
> insert/pop at index 0 as well as at the end), as well as the appropriate 
> mutating methods (like read_into()) should go a long way to meeting those 
> needs.

The implementation of deque and the idea behind bytes are not compatible. 
Everything I've heard about the proposal of bytes is that it is
effectively a C unsigned char[] with some convenience methods, very
similar to a Python array.array("B"), with different methods.  There is
also an implementation in the Py3k branch.

Also, while I would have a use for bytes as currently implemented (with
readinto() ), I would have approximately zero use for a deque-like bytes
object (never mind that due to Python not allowing multi-segment buffers,
etc., it would be functionally impossible to get equivalent time bounds).

 - Josiah

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