On Oct 13, 2006, at 7:39 AM, Talin wrote:

Now that I've gotten your attention :)

Seriously, though, I am not proposing that there *never* be additions to
the standard library -- instead, I simply want 'easy_install' to work
100% of the time, so that there's much less reason to add something to
the standard library.

In fact, I would go a step further and say that I'd like to see the
standard library cut in half. For backwards compatibility with existing Python programs, you would simply type 'easy_install legacy', and all of
the old "batteries included" modules would be installed for you. For
writing *new* programs however, you could use a much lighter, slimmer
distribution.

How's that for Py3000 cruft removal? :)

I'm +1 on the general idea.


Unfortunately, the main obstacle at the moment is that about 50% of the
packages out there aren't compatible with setuptools. About 50% of the
time when I say 'easy_install <bleargh>' it downloads the package and
then says 'setup.py' not found.

Moreover, I want 'easy_uninstall' to work just as easily, and I want it to clean up the installed package without a trace. I want to be able to
download X, check it out, say "blech, I don't like X", uninstall, and
have no guilt or loose files cluttering up my site-packages.

There's no need to wait for py3k for this, you can start on this right now :-). The first part is probably mostly evangelizing and/or patching packages.

The second part is extending setuptools with better package management, PJE has some ideas about that, hop over to distutils-sig to ask where to start ;-)

Ronald

P.S. I already have a lightweight version of easy_uninstall, it's called rm :-)

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