--- Ka-Ping Yee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Howell wrote: > > I think now that PEP 3131 has been accepted, you > can coarsely frame > > the remaining conflict as between ascii lovers and > non-ascii lovers > > To pit this as "ascii lovers vs. non-ascii lovers" > is a pretty large > oversimplification. You could name them "people who > want to be able > to know what the code says" and "people who don't > mind not being able > to know what the code says". Or you could name them > "people who want > Python's lexical syntax to be something they fully > understand" and > "people who don't mind the extra complexity". Or > "people who don't > want Python's lexical syntax to be tied to a > changing external > standard" and "people who don't mind the extra > variability." >
Agreed. > However you characterize them, keep in mind that > those in the former > group are asking for default behaviour that 100% of > Python users > already use and understand. There's no cost to > keeping identifiers > ASCII-only because that's what Python already does. > Agreed. > I think that's a pretty strong reason for making the > new, more complex > behaviour optional. > Agreed also. Just to be clear, I am 100% in the camp of people who want non-ascii behavior to be an explicit choice, at least for 3.0. EIBTI. But I also think we want to be as creative as possible for enabling and encouraging non-ascii functionality. I think that's where this thread should start focusing. I also share Guillaume's optimistic viewpoint about a Python world with no cultural boundaries, etc. (sorry if that's a bad paraphrase). ____________________________________________________________________________________ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 _______________________________________________ Python-3000 mailing list Python-3000@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-3000 Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-3000/archive%40mail-archive.com