I think it would be more useful for the {e1, e2, e3} literal to be a frozenset instead of a set.
In expressions like "x in {'html', 'xml', 'php'}" the compiler could optimize away the set construction and treat it as a constant. In cases where we want to build-up mutable sets, we need to start with set() anyway: s = set() for elem in source: s.add(elem) I don't think it would be typical to start with a partially filled-out set and then build-t up further: s = {'a', 'b', 'c'} # rare use-case for elem in source: s.add(elem) One of the primary use cases for frozensets is to be members of other sets or to be keys in a dict (esp. for graph representations). The repr's of those nested structures are annoying to read because the word "frozenset" gets spelled-out over and over again. Here's a few lines from the pprint() output for a graph of a cube: {frozenset([0, 1]): frozenset([frozenset([0]), frozenset([1]), frozenset([0, 1, 2])]), frozenset([0, 1, 2]): frozenset([frozenset([1, 2]), frozenset([0, 2]), frozenset([0, 1])])} This would read *much* better with the new notation: {{0, 1}: {{0}, {1}, {0, 1, 2}}, {0, 1, 2}: {{1, 2}, {0, 2}, {0, 1}}} If you want to see how extremely bad the current repr's can get, see the repr for David Eppstein's cuboctahedron in the tests for pprint: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-checkins/2008-January/065099.html In short, I think we would be much better served by using the {} literal notation for frozensets. Raymond P.S. A small side-benefit is it may put an end for interminable requests for a {:} or {/} notation for empty sets. There's not much need for a literal for a empty frozenset (use "not s" instead). _______________________________________________ Python-3000 mailing list Python-3000@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-3000 Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-3000/archive%40mail-archive.com