This whole movement to condemn super because it's not "pure" strikes me as wasted energy. That's my last word.
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Georg Brandl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guido van Rossum schrieb: > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Georg Brandl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > But the other two magical things about super() really bother me too. I > > > haven't looked at the new super in detail so far (and I don't know how > > > many others have), and two things are really strikingly unpythonic in > > > my view: > > > > > > * super() only works when named "super" [1]. It shouldn't be a function > if > > > it has that property; no other Python function has that. > > > > > > > Actually, I believe IronPython and/or Jython have to use this trick in > > certain cases -- at least I recall Jim Hugunin talking about > > generating different code when the use of locals() was detected. > > > > I don't know if it's possible in Jython to have "locals" referring to > something else. For CPython, the name "super" in a function can refer to > anything -- local, global or builtin -- and it just feels wrong for the > compiler to make assumptions based on the mere mention of a non-reserved > name. > > > > > I'm not proud of this, but I don't see a way around it. The > > alternative would be to make it a keyword, which seemed excessive > > (plus, it would be odd if super() were a keyword when self is not). > > > > I don't find it odd. In fact, IMO the whole magic needed for the runtime > implementation of "super()" justifies super becoming a keyword. > > Georg > > [Moving this to the Python-3000 list] > > > -- > Thus spake the Lord: Thou shalt indent with four spaces. No more, no less. > Four shall be the number of spaces thou shalt indent, and the number of thy > indenting shall be four. Eight shalt thou not indent, nor either indent > thou > two, excepting that thou then proceed to four. Tabs are right out. > > _______________________________________________ > Python-3000 mailing list > Python-3000@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-3000 > Unsubscribe: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-3000/guido%40python.org > -- --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) _______________________________________________ Python-3000 mailing list Python-3000@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-3000 Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-3000/archive%40mail-archive.com
