Antoine Pitrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Neil Schemenauer <nas <at> arctrix.com> writes: > > I wonder if it would make sense to start installing the Python > > standard library as a .zip file by default. Some benefits would be > > a tidier and more compact install and slightly faster startup times. > > Are any users complaining about Python's install size? > > As for startup time, do we have any eloquent data? For example, here > is with the current py3k on my machine: > > $ time ./python -c "" > 0.06user 0.00system 0:00.07elapsed 100%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k > 0inputs+0outputs (0major+1021minor)pagefaults 0swaps
That is for a warm cache. If you drop your caches first (like this under linux) you get quite a different story... $ sudo sh -c 'sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches' $ time python -c "" real 0m1.393s user 0m0.004s sys 0m0.004s $ time python -c "" real 0m0.007s user 0m0.004s sys 0m0.004s I imagine having the stdlib in one .zip will stop lots of seeking and improve the first time. > > One downside is that it becomes more difficult to look at the source > > of modules. That's an important feature of Python, especially for > > people learning the language. > > > > I think that downside could be mitigated by adding an option to > > pydoc that shows the source of a module. For example, "pydoc -s > > bisect" could show the source for the bisect module. > > When you have an unexpected traceback for instance it is pratical > to go and read the various source files participating in the traceback > without having to type lots of "pydoc -s" commands to get at the files. > (also, the traceback normally shows the exact path to the file, which > doesn't work if the sources are in a zip) > > It is a common argument against setuptools' "zip by default" > behaviour. I like the idea of "pydoc -s" on its own. I often want to look at the source of modules, and end up typing "locate pymodule" then looking through the list of files first before looking at it. "pydoc -s pymodule" would be much easier! -- Nick Craig-Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- http://www.craig-wood.com/nick _______________________________________________ Python-3000 mailing list Python-3000@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-3000 Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-3000/archive%40mail-archive.com
