On 2008-08-07 19:09, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Sounds like a plan. Make sure it is prominently mentioned in Misc/NEWS.

Committed as r65582.

All tests pass except test_socket, but that appears to be related
to some quirk on my machine:

   File "Lib/test/test_socket.py", line 365, in testGetServBy
    eq(socket.getservbyport(port2), service)
socket.error: port/proto not found

Note that the macro PyObject_REPR() still potentially exposes the
_PyUnicode_AsString() API to 3rd party code. We should probably
change that macro to a function in Python 3.1.

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:03 AM, M.-A. Lemburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 2008-08-07 18:40, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 5:18 AM, Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Aug 7, 2008, at 5:09 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:

Is it too late for that ?
That kind of depends on how far other 3rd party projects are in
porting their extensions to Py3k, and how much they've bought into
these APIs. I recall that mechanically translating these APIs to
something else can easily introduce memory leaks.
True, but isn't it better to go through that pain for a few extensions
now and then have a proper C API to use in 3.1 ? Otherwise, we end
up having to support those APIs for the whole lifetime
of the 3.x branch.

Note that those two APIs are not documented, so their use is not
yet officially allowed.
I'd prefer not introducing such instability this late in the beta
processes,
but I agree that fixing it now will be better in the long term.
I see this as a sufficient endorsement. Marc-Andre, can you do this?
Yes. I'll just apply a renaming of two APIs (and all their uses
in the interpreter code) to a _Py internal name.

We can then hash out a better interface to the internal UTF-8
representation for 3.1.

Extension that use the current unofficial APIs could then also
apply that renaming if the developers don't have time to update
the code and then use the new APIs when 3.1 ships.

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