Charles-François Natali <[email protected]> added the comment:

When you join a thread which hasn't been started, you get an
exception, not a deadlock.
When you join a newly-created queue, it doesn't wait until an item is
submitted to the queue.
But honestly I don't really care, since it's such a minor nuisance and
open to interpretation.

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