Feature Requests item #1721083, was opened at 2007-05-17 22:15 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by kbk You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=355470&aid=1721083&group_id=5470
Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: IDLE Group: Python 2.6 Status: Open Resolution: None >Priority: 3 Private: No Submitted By: Raymond Hettinger (rhettinger) Assigned to: Kurt B. Kaiser (kbk) Summary: Add File - Reload Initial Comment: When using CVS or SVN, it is common to revert or merge a file that is open in the editor. It would be great to have a reload/refresh option on the menu to bring in the changed file. Without that option, the only approach is to close without saving, fire-up the editor again, and reload the file manually. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Comment By: Kurt B. Kaiser (kbk) Date: 2007-07-21 21:04 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=149084 Originator: NO If you have more than one IDLE window open (even a shell), it's not necessary to shut down. Just close the edit window, confirm the unsaved warning, and use the Recent Files menu item to reopen with the current disk contents. We are talking about five mouse clicks instead of three, counting confirmation dialogs. In my opinion, it's not worth complicating IDLE and confusing beginners with a 'revert' menu item to save two clicks every other day or so. I normally use IDLE with svn and never feel the need to reload something that was merged. After all, you should have updated before you opened the file in IDLE. If you modified the file in IDLE, saved, and checked it in, IDLE's copy is the same as svn. Maybe you have a use case I haven't considered. If it's a good one, then a (normally inactive) IDLE extension might be warranted for those who really need this. Adding a warning when saving that the file has changed on disk is a good emacs feature which has saved my bacon a number of times. That would be a good feature to add to IDLE, but that's a different request. Rejecting this one. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Tal Einat (taleinat) Date: 2007-07-20 19:29 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1330769 Originator: NO I agree with KBK that what you suggest goes against IDLE's philosophy, which is to be simple and uncluttered, avoiding "bells and whistles". However, I do think that a simple "revert file" menu item in the File menu, which would just reload the file from the file system, could be generally useful. Additionally, IDLE could monitor the file on the file system, and if it is changed outside of IDLE, ask the user whether to continue with the current version or switch to the new version on disk. I've seen some text editors do this, and it can save some headaches. Drawbacks are that some users may find this annoying (at least at first), and it could be somewhat complex to implement. Thoughts on this? Perhaps this should be brought up on IDLE-dev? Each of the above would allow you to revert/merge using whatever CVS/SVN/etc. tools you normally use, then just load the new version inside the already open instance of IDLE. I think this would be a good separation of roles between IDLE and version control tools. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Kurt B. Kaiser (kbk) Date: 2007-05-22 19:18 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=149084 Originator: NO But isn't this an example of a bell/whistle which is outside IDLE's design policies? It would add a menu item which would be rather rarely used, especially by beginners, it seems to me. Why not just close the edit window (not IDLE) and re-open using the Files / Recent Files feature? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=355470&aid=1721083&group_id=5470 _______________________________________________ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com
