Nick Coghlan added the comment:

Right, I mostly borrowed the issue as a public channel that could reach folks 
already invested in the problem space, without needing to tidy things up 
sufficiently to make them coherent for a more general audience on python-dev or 
python-ideas.

As Steve says, we really need some high bandwidth discussions to help define 
what we think "good" looks like. I have a pretty solid idea of what *I* think 
"good" looks like, but that doesn't mean that aligns with what others think.

If we can get to a point where Steve, Slavek, Barry, Matthias and I can agree 
on a general outline of how we'd like platform integration to work, and 
whatever we propose sounds plausible to the Mac OS X experts as well, we'll be 
in a much better position to present a coherent story both to end users *and* 
to our fellow developers :)

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