Gregory P. Smith <g...@krypto.org> added the comment:

Issue 30154 that I've marked as a duplicate demonstrates this problem without 
using shell=True.  The solution I proposed handles that via the additional 
small timeout on the cleanup side, but still has the caveat that the grandchild 
processes keep running unless the caller used start_new_session=True.

See the PR.

We cannot reasonably determine when start_new_session=True should be a default 
behavior.  And I worry that doing it when it should not be will cause 
unexpected new problems with existing code.

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