bruce blosser <bru...@mcn.org> added the comment:

ok -  well sorry, I am obviously in way over my head, and now very confused...  

I was just going by what was being said on a number of python web sites, 
including one where I am taking a class in intermediate python coding, and 
thought I was seeing a confiict between what i was being told, and what I was 
finding when running code.

so I will try not to come back here, unless I have some major problem, that 
seems more like a bug

thanks
bruce

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