Doug Bates <coloneld...@gmail.com> added the comment: Thank you Terry for your interest/helpfulness. I'm a bit out of my depth but to explain, I first noticed the problem attempting to run Thonny as an development tool for Raspberry Pi RP2040 Picos. Previously it all worked great running on Buster. When I hit problems after moving to Bullseye I raised a bug with thonny.org and exchanged several posts with https://github.com/aivarannamaa who was very helpful and he observed the Thonny GUI uses the same as IDLE - so I tried it and found the same. Aivar couldn't replicate the issue but after several attempts suggested: https://github.com/thonny/thonny/issues/2196#issuecomment-1069473517.
You will see from our exchanges that I found the 'core' of Thonny (and IDLE if the window doesn't collapse immediately) seems to be running OK (e.g. >>> 22/7 > 3.142... etc) but any menu operations crashes it immediately. This obviously leaves a mess and neither IDLE nor Thonny will reload without restarting the whole linux container. Anyway, running the tests you suggested gives the following. Thanks again and let me know if I can help further. —------------------ python3 -m test -j0 -ugui == CPython 3.9.2 (default, Feb 28 2021, 17:03:44) [GCC 10.2.1 20210110] == Linux-5.10.106-15260-g6010c49177e8-x86_64-with-glibc2.31 little-endian == cwd: /tmp/test_python_19389æ == CPU count: 2 == encodings: locale=UTF-8, FS=utf-8 0:00:00 load avg: 0.00 Run tests in parallel using 4 child processes 0:00:00 load avg: 0.00 [ 1/10/1] test_builtin failed test test_builtin crashed -- Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.9/test/libregrtest/runtest.py", line 270, in _runtest_inner refleak = _runtest_inner2(ns, test_name) File "/usr/lib/python3.9/test/libregrtest/runtest.py", line 221, in _runtest_inner2 the_module = importlib.import_module(abstest) File "/usr/lib/python3.9/importlib/__init__.py", line 127, in import_module return _bootstrap._gcd_import(name[level:], package, level) File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1030, in _gcd_import File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1007, in _find_and_load File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 984, in _find_and_load_unlocked ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'test.test_builtin' 0:00:00 load avg: 0.00 [ 2/10/2] test_dict failed test test_dict crashed -- Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.9/test/libregrtest/runtest.py", line 270, in _runtest_inner refleak = _runtest_inner2(ns, test_name) File "/usr/lib/python3.9/test/libregrtest/runtest.py", line 221, in _runtest_inner2 the_module = importlib.import_module(abstest) File "/usr/lib/python3.9/importlib/__init__.py", line 127, in import_module return _bootstrap._gcd_import(name[level:], package, level) File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1030, in _gcd_import File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1007, in _find_and_load File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 984, in _find_and_load_unlocked ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'test.test_dict' 0:00:00 load avg: 0.00 [ 3/10/3] test_opcodes failed test test_opcodes crashed -- Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.9/test/libregrtest/runtest.py", line 270, in _runtest_inner refleak = _runtest_inner2(ns, test_name) File "/usr/lib/python3.9/test/libregrtest/runtest.py", line 221, in _runtest_inner2 the_module = importlib.import_module(abstest) File "/usr/lib/python3.9/importlib/__init__.py", line 127, in import_module return _bootstrap._gcd_import(name[level:], package, level) File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1030, in _gcd_import File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1007, in _find_and_load File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 984, in _find_and_load_unlocked ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'test.test_opcodes' 0:00:00 load avg: 0.00 [ 4/10/4] test_grammar failed test test_grammar crashed -- Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.9/test/libregrtest/runtest.py", line 270, in _runtest_inner refleak = _runtest_inner2(ns, test_name) File "/usr/lib/python3.9/test/libregrtest/runtest.py", line 221, in _runtest_inner2 the_module = importlib.import_module(abstest) File "/usr/lib/python3.9/importlib/__init__.py", line 127, in import_module return _bootstrap._gcd_import(name[level:], package, level) File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1030, in _gcd_import File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1007, in _find_and_load File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 984, in _find_and_load_unlocked ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'test.test_grammar' 0:00:00 load avg: 0.00 [ 5/10/5] test_exceptions failed test test_exceptions crashed -- Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.9/test/libregrtest/runtest.py", line 270, in _runtest_inner refleak = _runtest_inner2(ns, test_name) File "/usr/lib/python3.9/test/libregrtest/runtest.py", line 221, in _runtest_inner2 the_module = importlib.import_module(abstest) File "/usr/lib/python3.9/importlib/__init__.py", line 127, in import_module return _bootstrap._gcd_import(name[level:], package, level) File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1030, in _gcd_import File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1007, in _find_and_load File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 984, in _find_and_load_unlocked ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'test.test_exceptions' 0:00:00 load avg: 0.00 [ 6/10/6] test_types failed test test_types crashed -- Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.9/test/libregrtest/runtest.py", line 270, in _runtest_inner refleak = _runtest_inner2(ns, test_name) File "/usr/lib/python3.9/test/libregrtest/runtest.py", line 221, in _runtest_inner2 the_module = importlib.import_module(abstest) File "/usr/lib/python3.9/importlib/__init__.py", line 127, in import_module return _bootstrap._gcd_import(name[level:], package, level) File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1030, in _gcd_import File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1007, in _find_and_load File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 984, in _find_and_load_unlocked ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'test.test_types' 0:00:00 load avg: 0.00 [ 7/10/7] test_doctest failed test test_doctest crashed -- Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.9/test/libregrtest/runtest.py", line 270, in _runtest_inner refleak = _runtest_inner2(ns, test_name) File "/usr/lib/python3.9/test/libregrtest/runtest.py", line 221, in _runtest_inner2 the_module = importlib.import_module(abstest) File "/usr/lib/python3.9/importlib/__init__.py", line 127, in import_module return _bootstrap._gcd_import(name[level:], package, level) File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1030, in _gcd_import File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1007, in _find_and_load File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 984, in _find_and_load_unlocked ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'test.test_doctest' 0:00:01 load avg: 0.00 [ 8/10/8] test_unittest failed test test_unittest crashed -- Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.9/test/libregrtest/runtest.py", line 270, in _runtest_inner refleak = _runtest_inner2(ns, test_name) File "/usr/lib/python3.9/test/libregrtest/runtest.py", line 221, in _runtest_inner2 the_module = importlib.import_module(abstest) File "/usr/lib/python3.9/importlib/__init__.py", line 127, in import_module return _bootstrap._gcd_import(name[level:], package, level) File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1030, in _gcd_import File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1007, in _find_and_load File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 984, in _find_and_load_unlocked ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'test.test_unittest' 0:00:01 load avg: 0.00 [ 9/10/9] test_doctest2 failed test test_doctest2 crashed -- Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python3.9/test/libregrtest/runtest.py", line 270, in _runtest_inner refleak = _runtest_inner2(ns, test_name) File "/usr/lib/python3.9/test/libregrtest/runtest.py", line 221, in _runtest_inner2 the_module = importlib.import_module(abstest) File "/usr/lib/python3.9/importlib/__init__.py", line 127, in import_module return _bootstrap._gcd_import(name[level:], package, level) File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1030, in _gcd_import File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1007, in _find_and_load File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 984, in _find_and_load_unlocked ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'test.test_doctest2' 0:00:03 load avg: 0.24 [10/10/9] test_support passed == Tests result: FAILURE == 1 test OK. 9 tests failed: test_builtin test_dict test_doctest test_doctest2 test_exceptions test_grammar test_opcodes test_types test_unittest Total duration: 3.8 sec Tests result: FAILURE —----------------------------- [comment: despite failure I tried this, leading to …. > a window flashes on the screen and vanishes] On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 2:27 AM Terry J. Reedy <rep...@bugs.python.org> wrote: > > Terry J. Reedy <tjre...@udel.edu> added the comment: > > This issue tracker is for improving the CPython distribution. It is not a > tracker for other software, or for general help with running Python. For > the latter, try > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > > Thonny is 3rd party software with its own tracker, although I suspect that > the problem is with your upgrade Chromebook/Linux Bullseye. While running > Python on Linux on PCs is supported, I do not believe Chromebooks are > included; there is certainly no Chromebook buildbot for testing CPython > listed on https://buildbot.python.org/all/#/builders. If there is a > Chromebook Python list, you might ask if tkinter works with Bullseye for > other users. > > IDLE *is* part of CPython. What specific release of Python are you > running. This is the first thing IDLE prints when it starts. > > If you are running a somewhat recent release of 3.9 or 3.10, then > continue. To see whether there might be an IDLE-specific or ever > tkinter-specific problem, run the CPython test suite from a command line > with "python3 -m test -j0 -ugui" and report results. (Or 'python ...' is > 'python' works to run python 3.) If it passes except for IDLE tests, start > IDLE from a command line with "python3 -m idlelib". Get IDLE to > quit/crash. Then report any error info printed in the terminal. > > ---------- > > _______________________________________ > Python tracker <rep...@bugs.python.org> > <https://bugs.python.org/issue47229> > _______________________________________ > ---------- title: IDLE crashes on Chromebook Linux/Bullseye -> IDLE / Thonny UI crashes on Chromebook Linux/Bullseye _______________________________________ Python tracker <rep...@bugs.python.org> <https://bugs.python.org/issue47229> _______________________________________ _______________________________________________ Python-bugs-list mailing list Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-bugs-list/archive%40mail-archive.com