On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Antoine Pitrou <anto...@python.org> wrote:

> On ven., 2013-11-29 at 10:56 -0800, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Georg Brandl <g.bra...@gmx.net>
> > wrote:
> >         Am 29.11.2013 19:22, schrieb Tim Peters:
> >         > I pretty much ignore Anatoly, and that works really well for
> >         me - try it ;-)
> >
> >
> >         It's a nice option, I agree -- but someone has to triage his
> >         issues, or they
> >         will rot in the tracker for eternity.
> >
> >
> > Plenty of issues do rot there, it doesn't bother me much. If you don't
> > want to triage Anatoly's issues, don't; maybe someone else (Mark
> > Lawrence? :-) will.
>
> The real problem with trolls in an open community is that there'll
> always be new people to fall in their traps. We may not pay attention
> anymore, but other people will.
>
> Here's a small recap:
>
> - Anatoly has repeatably hostile rhetorics towards core development and
> the contribution process
>
> - he refuses to abide by some of our (rather lax, IMHO) contribution
> rules (e.g. CLA)
>
> - he continuously veers into meta-discourse (complaining about the
> development process)
>
> - he always rehashes the same obsessions
>
> - he was warned about his behaviour and acknowledges that his
> interaction is not satisfactory
>
> - he nevertheless refuses to change his behaviour
>
> - his behaviour has spawned several distinct threads over the time here
> at python-committers, purely about him and nothing else (i.e. it's not a
> hidden systemic issue)
>
> - his behaviour has been going on for years
>

I would add to this list that he is a really bad communicator. His English
grammar is so random that I often can't figure out what he is saying (*),
and he is either extremely terse or extremely verbose.

If you can get a majority of the committers to vote to ban him we should do
it -- but that's a high bar (many committers probably don't care enough to
vote).

__________
(*) The PEP process bug was an example -- I couldn't tell if he was asking
"what is the process" or suggesting "please add a pointer to a description
of the process to the peps repo README.txt" or trying to propose an
alternative process.

-- 
--Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
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