On 07/13/2018 03:30 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote:
On Jul 13, 2018, at 15:11, Jack Jansen <jack.jan...@cwi.nl> wrote:
How about a triumvirate (or trium*ate if “vir” is seen as too male-centric, and 
actually the “3” isn’t important either) where unanimity is required for 
language changes (i.e. basically for accepting a PEP)?
Possibly, but even if unanimity can’t be achieved, I feel strongly that any 
decision coming from the GUIDO/Cabal/Council should be give as a single party.  
E.g. if Alice and Bob +1 PEP 801 and Carol -1’s it, I don’t think any purpose 
is served by breaking that out into individual votes.  I would hope that the 
council members support each other and the body’s decision even if it doesn’t 
go an individual’s way.

I disagree.  My proposal for Python's Council Of Elders is partially based on the Supreme Court Of The United States.  For example, SCOTUS judges are appointed for life, and I think PCOE members should be too.

When SCOTUS renders a decision:

 * the deliberation is held in private, but then
 * the judges cast their votes,
 * the "winning" side writes up the official decision, called "the
   Court's opinion",
 * and any member may contribute their own individual opinion,
   concurring /or/ dissenting, and finally
 * all votes and opinions contributed to the decision are made public.

This seems like a sensible approach for the PCOE to me too.  I prefer more transparency in governance generally, and as a member of the community governed by this body I'd prefer more rather than less insight into the process and the thinking that went into the decision.  I don't think it's a requirement for the PCOE to present as a unified front or to work in secret for them to be supportive of each other and of the body's decision.

Sunlight, not darkness,


//arry/
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