On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 13:14 Neil Schemenauer, <nas-pyt...@arctrix.com> wrote:
> On 2018-07-13, Ethan Furman wrote: > > I stopped reading the PEP 572 threads once it was painfully > > obvious that almost all new replies were just saying the same > > things over and over and over... > > Perhaps this can be seen as a kind of economic problem. What is the > cost of posting to a PEP discussion thread vs the cost of everyone > reading that post? Or, what is the value of the comment vs what is > cost for everyone to read it? > > With the current discussion method, the costs are often > disproportionate. You have hundreds of people reading the thread. > So that cost is pretty high. Posting a half-baked comment is too > easy. Starting a new thread with a new subject line is too easy. > While I'm not ready to start talking about a tweaked PEP process, I will say that this disproportionate cost is definitely an issue from my perspective. -Brett > One idea is to have a list dedicated to PEP discussions. We could > establish a set of rules (cultural norms) for discussion on that > list. E.g. > > - do your background research before posting: read PEP in its > entirety, read complete PEP discussion thread > > - make high quality posts: ensure your points are truly bringing new > ideas forth, present them clearly and succinctly > > - lay down rules for subject lines of posts, when you can start a > new thread. Off topic discussion should go back to python-ideas. > > python-ideas can remain a free-wheeling wild west. Make the PEP > discussion list a formal discussion forum. If people don't follow > the rules, warn them and ultimately ban them from the list. > > Thinking about subject line rules, it would be helpful to organize > threads by PEP, by topic and sub-topic. E.g. > > PEP 572: R: informal educator feedback > PEP 572: S: comprehension scope > PEP 572: S: operator precedence of := > > Possible topic abbreviations: > > R: Rationale > S: Syntax and semantics > E: Examples > > Regards, > > Neil > _______________________________________________ > python-committers mailing list > python-committers@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers > Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ >
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