Excerpts from Paul Moore's message of 2018-07-20 13:14:49 +0100: > On 20 July 2018 at 12:57, Victor Stinner <vstin...@redhat.com> wrote: > > Hum. Let me try to explain my point differently. Currently, some > > people don't read PEPs just because at the end, only the single BDFL > > vote counts. What's the point of spending hours (if not days) on > > reading a long PEP and the long discussion on mailing lists, if your > > count doesn't count? > > My suspicion is that *most* people who don't read PEPs don't do so > because they don't have the time, not because they don't believe that > their opinion will matter. In actual fact, the evidence from many > threads is that people are more than happy to express their opinion > even though they haven't read the PEP. So I doubt that giving people > more power to affect the result will make little practical difference. > > > Now imagine that all votes count. I expect that > > people will spend more time on reading carefully each PEP and follow > > more closely discussions since they will be de facto more involved in > > the decision process. > > In contrast, I would imagine that people would continue to discuss > PEPs in exactly the same way that they currently do, so the result > would be that the votes are based more on partially-informed opinion > and "gut feeling". Certainly some people will work harder to provide > an informed vote, but I doubt that will be true in the majority of > cases. Worst case, people will feel a responsibility to vote, but > won't have any more time than they do right now so they'll vote with > limited information simply because "it's expected of them" to vote. > > I suspect that the reality will be somewhere between these two extremes. > > Paul
In other communities that use this form of consensus approval for design changes I have seen folks who do not have time or interest to dig deeply into a proposed change learn to trust others who have the time, interest, and expertise. The team comes out stronger as a result of that built-up trust. Doug _______________________________________________ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
