> On Oct 17, 2018, at 11:34 AM, Brian Curtin <br...@python.org> wrote:
>
> I think this type of issue is better solved internally to our team, perhaps
> via some form of mediator(s) I mentioned earlier, rather than involving a
> wholly external group. Time is of course a finite resource in open source,
> and people work is often/usually harder than code work, but I think we do
> have some people around who care about the success of the project to spend
> time mediating these kinds of conflicts so that we keep everyone involved and
> solve whatever problem at hand in a satisfactory manner.
>
Honestly, I think an independent group managing these issues is the right way
to handle them. I’m loathe to bring it up because the situation was a long time
ago, and has been resolved, but I’ve personally had to engage the CoC process
in regards to another core developers behavior. At the time the way that was
handled was contacting the PSF board, if the process was instead to contact
python-committers or something I likely would’t have done it at all. I think it
is important that if someone feels they’re having a problem in a particular
space, that they feel they have an impartial and independent group of people to
raise those concerns with.
With regards to whether the CoC can evict a core developer of Python.. I think
it absolutely needs to be able to do that. Otherwise it’s basically stating
that it’s fine for someone to harass someone else… as long as the person doing
the harassing is a core developer. If anything, core developers should be held
to a higher, not a lower standard. Obviously excommunication is not step 1 on
any CoC, and such a thing would only be used after a history of repeated, on
going unacceptable behavior, but if the CoC doesn’t have any teeth, than it’s
not worth the metaphorical paper it’s written on.
So, when it comes to the conduct we expect from people, core developers should
not be treated specially in either expectations nor process.
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