On Oct 19, 2020, at 14:35, Brett Cannon <br...@python.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 11:22 AM Ned Deily <n...@python.org> wrote:
>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 13:59, Brett Cannon <br...@python.org> wrote:
>> > On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 2:21 PM Ethan Furman <et...@stoneleaf.us> wrote:
>> >> On 10/18/20 1:18 PM, Ned Deily wrote:
>> >> > On Oct 18, 2020, at 15:45, Carol Willing <willi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> We've largely moved away from Travis for Jupyter testing in favor of 
>> >> >> Azure pipelines and CircleCI as Travis was becoming increasingly slow 
>> >> >> and timing out.
>> >> > 
>> >> > Along those lines, if we are basically going to ignore the Travis CI 
>> >> > results, perhaps we should consider being "good citizens" and stop 
>> >> > running them all together.  Each PR change triggers multiple builds to 
>> >> > run under Travis and all that extra and useless work contributes to the 
>> >> > load on Travis and no doubt is not good for overall Travis 
>> >> > responsiveness.
>> >> 
>> >> If we have something else set up to takes its place that's fine; 
>> >> otherwise, let's leave it up with the understanding 
>> >> that we have to check it manually for success or failure -- that's still 
>> >> valuable information.
>> > Unfortunately, the "valuable information" lately has been whether Travis 
>> > is even working. 😉
>> Yes, and I still think it's unfair of us to use so much of Travis's 
>> resources - resources that other projects could use - when we are almost 
>> entirely ignoring the results.  On the master branch, each time a PR is 
>> merged or requires a CI run, we currently start up to 5 separate Travis jobs 
>> (some short-circuited but still jobs). The main job. which rebuilds python 
>> and runs the test suite, can run for 15+ minutes.  And then backports run 
>> some of the jobs as well.
>> 
> Yep, if Travis has limited their free resources then we are wasting them. And 
> without knowing where Travis gets their electricity there's even a 
> potentially (very slight) ecological cost from us wasting the runs. I am with 
> Ned about trying on to be wasteful here just in case Travs happens to find 
> something in a CI run.
>  
>> Let's just disable Travis on all branches for now until there is reason to 
>> believe the problems we've seen are fixed.
> +1 from me.


Pablo, Łukasz: any objections to disabling Travis on your branches?  If not, 
one of us, or Ernest, can just do it.

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  Ned Deily
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