FWIW: PEP 594 doesn't seem to have been updated with all the discussions we had around it, e.g. the nntplib is still marked for removal, even though the only reason is related to servers used in the test suite sometimes causing delays, which I will be fixing with Ee by setting up our own test server.
Since it's rather likely that we'll always find someone who still uses a module, I think we should find a better strategy on how to deal with such removals, e.g. create a separate attic repo where participation is easier than for CPython, publish the modules in this repo under a python-attic package, and move all deprecated code there. On 23.06.2021 15:16, Antoine Pitrou wrote: > > Also, it seems this discussion should happen on python-dev so that more people > are aware of it. > > Regards > > Antoine. > > > Le 23/06/2021 à 14:58, Joannah Nanjekye a écrit : >> Am not against removing dead batteries but Am still very skeptical and >> disturbed about how the >> decision to remove modules is made.i.e what goes and what remains? >> >> For example, in the discussion section of PEP 594 , individuals kept asking >> for some modules to remain and IIUC, >> it's in the decision of the PEP to keep those modules on those grounds that >> some people requested for those modules to remain. >> >> For example, I now wonder how Andrew is different from those people? >> >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 5:06 AM Victor Stinner <vstin...@python.org >> <mailto:vstin...@python.org>> wrote: >> >> Hi Andrew, >> >> If someone ones smtpd, I would suggest to copy it from Python 3.10 >> (with asyncore and asynchat) and continue the maintenance outside the >> CPython Git repository. >> >> Create a project on PyPI if you expect contributions. >> >> Victor >> >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 9:13 AM Andrew McNamara >> <andr...@object-craft.com.au <mailto:andr...@object-craft.com.au>> >> wrote: >> > >> > >I would hope we'd remove it. It's a toy implementation, >> unmaintained, >> > >probably doesn't support a lot of newer protocol features, and >> is probably >> > >full of bugs. Hopefully nobody uses it! >> > >> > I use it and it works well for my specific use case - a Postfix spam >> > filter. During incoming SMTP transactions, I have Postfix >> configured to >> > pass the received message to my daemon via SMTP >> (smtpd_proxy_filter). My >> > daemon pronounces judgement, allowing Postfix to potentially >> reject the >> > message while the sender is still connected (so no bounce >> backscatter). 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