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2021년 7월 13일 (화) 오전 12:45, Ewa Jodlowska <e...@python.org>님이 작성:

> Hi folks -
>
> Just to circle back, we have officially contracted with Łukasz Langa to be
> the first CPython Developer-in-Residence!
>
> PSF announcement:
> https://pyfound.blogspot.com/2021/07/ukasz-langa-is-inaugural-cpython.html
>
> We look forward to seeing all the impact that Łukasz and this role will
> have!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ewa
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 3:41 PM Ewa Jodlowska <e...@python.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks -
>>
>> Just a reminder that we are still accepting resumes for the
>> Developer-in-Residence role.
>>
>> The deadline to submit a resume is May 16th.
>>
>> If you would like to chat tomorrow, Saturday or Sunday, let me know. I am
>> happy to share how the employee will work with the PSF and expectations.
>>
>>
>> Ewa Jodlowska
>> Executive Director
>> Python Software Foundation
>> e...@python.org
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 4:00 PM Brett Cannon <br...@python.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 12:57 PM Ewa Jodlowska <e...@python.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 2:36 PM Victor Stinner <vstin...@python.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ewa,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is really awesome! It's great that the PSF can now hire someone
>>>>> for that!
>>>>>
>>>>> The job offer is great, but I would like some clarification :-) (While
>>>>> I was part of the previous Steering Council who helped to write the
>>>>> job offer, sadly I was not avaialble last months when it was
>>>>> discussed.)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Who is going to "manage" the candidate?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Great question! The technical direction will come from the SC and the
>>>> people management will be Ee and myself.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 7:30 PM Ewa Jodlowska <e...@python.org> wrote:
>>>>> > The Developer-in-Residence will work full-time for one year to
>>>>> assist CPython maintainers and the Steering Council. Areas of
>>>>> responsibility will include analytical research to understand the 
>>>>> project's
>>>>> volunteer hours and funding, investigation of project priorities and their
>>>>> tasks going forward, and begin working on those priorities. We are looking
>>>>> to hire an existing core developer because of the type of work involved 
>>>>> and
>>>>> interaction with volunteer core developers and contributors. Need and
>>>>> available funding will determine any extension beyond the first year.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Create metrics (...) Combine usage and surveyed metrics to determine
>>>>> which standard library modules need help and what the maintainer cost is
>>>>> for standard library modules
>>>>>
>>>>> What are the expected steps after the production of such report of the
>>>>> stdlib usage and maintenance? Hire more people to maintain most used
>>>>> stdlib modules, or deprecate least used modules?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> For example, asyncio and ctypes are popular but barely maintained. For
>>>>> the CI, the most unstable test is test_asyncio (I asked for help
>>>>> multiple times on python-dev). Do we need a more detailed reports on
>>>>> the 302 (len(sys.stdlib_module_names)) stdlib modules?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One of the intentions is to document these cases to better prioritize
>>>> funding we have and provide direction to potential future funders.
>>>>
>>>> I am sure someone from the Steering Council will want to chime in on
>>>> additional, more technical intentions :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think the results of the research is going to help inform what the
>>> next steps are (hence the need for the research 😉). Guessing what needs
>>> work and making a call without having at least *some* form of data
>>> seems premature. I also have stdlib data already for a language summit
>>> discussion (if it gets selected), and at worst I will just open source the
>>> Jupyter notebook with the charts of what I found so this won't be starting
>>> from scratch.
>>>
>>> Plus I suspect there will be some discussion here of what people want to
>>> see be worked on. While the SC is the final decider on the priorities
>>> simply because it would probably be a bit chaotic if the whole team tried
>>> to direct a single person's work, that doesn't mean things won't be
>>> discussed here to provide guidance and feedback to the SC.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand that the first step is to put priorities in bug triage
>>>>> and PR reviews for the candidate.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > Address Pull Request and Issue backlogs based on the developed
>>>>> metrics and other metrics created by the Steering Council
>>>>>
>>>>> What about the candidate skills? I don't expect the candidate to be
>>>>> able to fix any bug in any part of the Python. What if is the priority
>>>>> is a module that the candidate doesn't know? They should do their
>>>>> best, help debugging issues and propose a fix? I expect the existing
>>>>> module maintainers to remain the local autority to review pull
>>>>> requests written by the candidate, to avoid mistakes.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> What would *you* do in this situation? The expectation is the person
>>> would act like any of us would: if they can fix something then fix it,
>>> otherwise find the person who can and help them out. There is a reason we
>>> hope a core dev is up for taking this job. 😁
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> In my experience, it usually helps a lot to do a first basic review,
>>>>> but then ask for the maintainers of a module to do the final review
>>>>> and merge the change. Finding the right people for a review on a
>>>>> specific PR is a very valuable addition to a PR. The candidate could
>>>>> be a great help for that!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, great point to clarify. By "address" we mean either take care of
>>>> it themselves if it is in their purview or work with the maintainers and
>>>> support maintainers with setting up priorities/getting additional 
>>>> resources.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Exactly what Ewa said. The person is meant to be an asset to the team to
>>> help us keep this project running as smoothly as possible. As of right now
>>> our massive PR backlog is the obvious sticking point we have and so that's
>>> what the SC wants to see tackled first.
>>>
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