On 04.07.2023 20:37, C.A.M. Gerlach wrote:
Good point. The PostgreSQL database that stores everything can be
backed up, stored as a file anywhere and restored fairly easily:
https://meta.discourse.org/t/122710 I'm only a mod (not an admin), so
I don't know if we're actually doing it right now, but maybe Brett or
one of the other admins does—might be a good idea to do regularly just
in case.
Besides being restored to another Discourse instance (including self
hosted), the db schema is documented as comments at the bottom of each
file in the `app/models` directory, e.g. for posts:
https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/main/app/models/post.rb#L1257-L1327
and thus one could browsed, query and extract, e.g. an archive of
posts via a PostgreSQL client or a script, as well as in the official
first-party maintained data explorer plugin that runs inside the
instance: https://meta.discourse.org/t/discourse-data-explorer/32566
Discourse also has an API: https://docs.discourse.org/ , and you can
get the data on any page as JSON via adding `.json` to the URL,
https://discuss.python.org/t/27957.json, so the public data could also
be scraped and archived that way by anyone interested if desired (just
like the ML can).
Does that help address your concern?
It does address the question of how to backup Discourse content, but
leaves open the concern of whether we or the PSF are actually doing any
of the above to keep a copy of it under our control.
This may not be important to many people, but we have always been very
careful to maintain our collective history in the past and should
continue to do so going forward. With more and more MLs moving to
Discourse, this is becoming more relevant as well. I just used this
request for another move as trigger to start the discussion.
I can reach out to Ee, the PSF director of infra, to see whether this is
on his radar.
Thanks,
CAM
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On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 4:57 AM Marc-Andre Lemburg <m...@egenix.com> wrote:
The only concern I have with moving off of the MLs and to
Discourse is
archiving of messages.
With MLs, the archiving process is pretty straight forward and built
into Mailman, but for Discourse this is less obvious.
Do we have a solution to archiving Discourse content in place
which is
under PSF control ? (AFAIK, we are using a hosted Discource
installation)
Thanks.
On 04.07.2023 06:57, C.A.M. Gerlach wrote:
> FWIW, +1 to archiving to reduce duplication. If decided, I can
help out
> making the appropriate devguide, PEP, etc. changes, as I've done
for
> several previous transitions now.
>
> Thanks,
> CAM
>
> /C.A.M. Gerlach/
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 2:15 PM Brett Cannon <br...@python.org
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> The question has come up as to whether people still find this
> mailing list useful enough to keep around. Looking at the
archive
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(https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-committers@python.org/latest
<https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-committers@python.org/latest>),
this list seems to be used for two things:
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> 1. Announcing new releases
> 2. Announcing new core developers
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> In both cases the things are announced (at least) at
> discuss.python.org <http://discuss.python.org>
<http://discuss.python.org>, and so are not
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> So, do people find this list useful enough to keep around,
or should
> we archive it?
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