I'm not sure I understand this, perhaps someone could write a message to the list explaining what we're doing here so there is a record. Sorry if I'm being slow-headed here.

To me it seems that when you use thread-related calls from Python, you wrap those in Python defines (WITH_THREAD) and when you use thread-related calls from APR, you wrap those in APR defines (APR_HAS_THREAD), and that's all?

In other words - what does MOD_PYTHON_WITH_THREAD_SUPPORT accomplish that the above does not.

Also, given:

#if(defined(WITH_THREAD) && APR_HAS_THREADS)
    #define MOD_PYTHON_WITH_THREAD_SUPPORT 1
#else
    #define MOD_PYTHON_WITH_THREAD_SUPPORT 0
#endif

Does this mean that if Python is compiled with thread support and APR is not, MOD_PYTHON_WITH_THREAD_SUPPORT is 0 which means that the thread safety code isn't there, but you still _can_ create threads because Python will let you - isn't this asking for a segfault/deadlock/whatever?

Grisha

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Jim Gallacher wrote:

Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote:

Shouldn't that be PYTHON_WITH_THREAD rather than MOD_PYTHON_WITH_THREAD?


I understand it to mean that we want the thread handling code compiled into mod_python.

Compiling and testing right now.

Jim


On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Nicolas Lehuen wrote:

I've checked in a changeset wherein I define MOD_PYTHON_WITH_THREAD_SUPPORT and use it everywhere WITH_THREAD was previously used. This should do the trick ! Now if someone (like Jim) can give us his +1, that would be great.

Regards,
Nicolas

2005/9/12, Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



Just wanted to add to this message that if Jim's version runs and tests
with the trick below (envvars is executed prior to apache start, but I
don't think the tests use it, so you'll probably just have to set this var in the shell in which the tests are run), then this would be a solution for all FreeBSD issues and we could roll a beta 3 which will have a great
change of being publicly released.

Grisha

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote:


OK, found it. This should work on FreeBSD where Python is threaded and

Apache

is not.

[snip]

And, if you built apache without thread support, you may need to add the
following lines to $PREFIX/sbin/envvars:

LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libc_r.so
export LD_PRELOAD

[snip]


On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote:


On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Jim Gallacher wrote:

*** Warning: Linking the shared library mod_python.la against the *** static library /usr/local/lib/python2.4/config/libpython2.4.a is

not

portable!


I think this was always there and its pretty harmless.

On qemu:
Syntax error on line 44 of
/usr/home/jim/tmp/mod_python/test/conf/test.conf:
Cannot load /usr/home/jim/tmp/mod_python/src/mod_python.so into

server:

/usr/home/jim/tmp/mod_python/src/mod_python.so: Undefined symbol
"pthread_attr_init"



This is because FreeBSD's libc comes in two versions - threaded and non-threaded. If Python is linked against the threaded ones and Apache against the non-thrreaded, then you get this problem. There is a simple fix for this - you just cause Apache to start with threaded libs, but I
can't find any references to it right now and have to run off to a
meeting.

Grisha




It is quite possible I don't have things configured correctly on the QEMU version and hence the different undefined symbol but it doesn't
really matter since it fails either way. I don't have time to
investigate further right now. I'll revisit this tonight.

Regards,
Jim

Regards,
Nicolas
#if APR_HAS_THREADS && defined(WITH_THREAD)
2005/9/11, Jim Gallacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:

FYI, I found the following note in the INSTALL file in the apache
source:

* If you are building on FreeBSD, be aware that threads will
be disabled and the prefork MPM will be used by default,
as threads do not work well with Apache on FreeBSD. If
you wish to try a threaded Apache on FreeBSD anyway, use
"./configure --enable-threads".

I'm also setting up FreeBSD under QEMU... so far so good, but
installing
anything using ports is really slow. QEMU's performance here is
just
killing me. I guess I should have read the manual first and used
the
binary packages for the software I wanted to install. :-(

Regards,
Jim

Jim Gallacher wrote:

Nicolas Lehuen wrote:

OK, I've checked in a version that compiles both on at least

Win32 and

FreeBSD. I'm just testing if APR_HAS_THREAD is defined and

only

include the apr_thread_mutex_lock and unlock calls if it is

defined.



Compiles a passes unit tests on Linux Debian sid with

mpm-prefork.


Now, on minotaur, APR_HAS_THREAD is defined as 0. Does this

mean
that

Apache is not configured for threading ? Can we assume that we

are in

the prefork model if APR_HAS_THREAD==0, so that we can skip

all the

locking code ? Because that's what we do right now.



On Debian sid with apache2.0.54 mpm-prefork, APR_HAS_THREAD ==

1.


Jim

Regards,
Nicolas

2005/9/11, Nicolas Lehuen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

<mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>:


Yes, this new code is something I commited on the

29/12/2004
(I used

the "blame" function of TortoiseSVN for that). It was a

patch by

Graham to fix MODPYTHON-2
<http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MODPYTHON-2>.

The problem is not in the patch, but rather in the fact

that
APR

seems configured without the thread support while Python

is

configured with thread support. mod_python.c assumes that

is

WITH_THREAD is defined, then the APR mutex functions are

available,

which is wrong. Maybe we should test for APR_HAS_THREADS

instead ?

In that case, won't this cause any problems on threaded

platforms ?


I don't know if this is a problem specific to minotaur or

to
all

version of FreeBSD. I'm currently downloading the ISOs of

FreeBSD

and I'll try using QEMU to run a FreeBSD setup on my

computer, but

that will be long and troublesome. If someone has more

clue
on this

issue, feel free to tell us :).

Regards,
Nicolas

2005/9/10, Jim Gallacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>:


I'm stubling around in the dark here, but maybe this will

create a


spark

of an idea. I took a diff of mod_python.c from 3.1.4 and

3.2.1b and

isolated the lines which correspond to the compilation

error.


Compiler messages
-----------------

mod_python.c:34: error: syntax error before '*' token
mod_python.c:34: warning: type defaults to `int' in

declaration of

`interpreters_lock'
mod_python.c:34: warning: data definition has no type or

storage class

mod_python.c: In function `get_interpreter':
mod_python.c:131: warning: implicit declaration of function
`apr_thread_mutex_lock'
mod_python.c:161: warning: implicit declaration of function
`apr_thread_mutex_unlock'
mod_python.c: In function `python_init':
mod_python.c:517: warning: implicit declaration of function
`apr_thread_mutex_create'
mod_python.c:517: error: `APR_THREAD_MUTEX_UNNESTED'

undeclared (first

use in this function)


Diff output
-----------
I've only copied the diff chunks which correspond to the

complier


errors

mentioned above.

--- mod_python-3.1.4/src/mod_python.c Sat Jan 29 13:25:28

2005

+++ mod_python-3.2.1b/src/mod_python.c Tue Sep 6 17:11:03

2005

@@ -31,6 +31,8 @@
* (In a Python dictionary) */
static PyObject * interpreters = NULL;

+static apr_thread_mutex_t* interpreters_lock = 0;
+
apr_pool_t *child_init_pool = NULL;

... snip ...

@@ -124,11 +128,15 @@
name = MAIN_INTERPRETER;

#ifdef WITH_THREAD
+ apr_thread_mutex_lock(interpreters_lock);
PyEval_AcquireLock();
#endif

... snip ...

@@ -149,6 +158,7 @@

#ifdef WITH_THREAD
PyEval_ReleaseLock();
+ apr_thread_mutex_unlock(interpreters_lock);
#endif

... snip ...

@@ -490,13 +506,15 @@
}

/* initialize global Python interpreter if necessary */
- if (! Py_IsInitialized())
+ if (initialized == 0 || !Py_IsInitialized())
{
-
+ initialized = 1;
+
/* initialze the interpreter */
Py_Initialize();

#ifdef WITH_THREAD
+




apr_thread_mutex_create(&interpreters_lock,APR_THREAD_MUTEX_UNNESTED,p);


/* create and acquire the interpreter lock */
PyEval_InitThreads();
#endif

So it would seem that the code causing the compile problems

is new


for 3.2.


I also notice that in apr_arch_thread_mutex.h the typedef

for

apr_thread_mutex_t is wrapped by #if APR_HAS_THREADS /

#endif.


Looking at the apache source in

srclib/apr/locks/unix/thread_mutex.c,

everything is also enclosed by #if APR_HAS_THREADS / #endif.
eg, apr_thread_mutex_create, apr_thread_mutex_lock and
apr_thread_mutex_unlock.

Hopefully this will give someone a clue as to what may be

going on


here

with FreeBSD.

Regards,
Jim













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