On 2005 Jan 14, at 04:08, David Ascher wrote:
Alex Martelli wrote:
Yes, there is (lato sensu) "non-determinism" involved, just like in, say:
for k in d:
print k
Wow, it took more than the average amount of googling to figure out that lato sensu means "broadly speaking",
Ooops -- sorry; I wouldn't have imagined Brazilian hits would swamp the google hits to that extent, mostly qualifying post-grad courses and the like... seems to be an idiom there for that.
and occurs as "sensu lato" with a 1:2 ratio.
In Latin as she was spoken word order is very free, but the issue here is that _in taxonomy specifically_ (which was the way I intended the form!) the "sensu lato" order vastly predominates. Very exhaustive discussion of this word order choice in taxonomy at <http://www.forum-one.org/new-1967018-4338.html>, btw (mostly about "sensu scricto", the antonym).
I learned something today! ;-)
Me too: about Brazilian idiom, and about preferred word-order use in Aquinas and Bonaventura.
Also, a reflection: taxonomy, the classification of things (living beings, rocks, legal precedents, ...) into categories, is a discipline with many, many centuries of experience behind it. I think it is telling that taxonomists found out they require _two_ kinds of ``inheritance'' to do their job (no doubt there are all kind of _nuances_, but specialized technical wording exists for two kinds: "strict-sense" and "broad-sense")... they need to be able to assert that "A is a B _broadly speaking_" (or specifically "_strictly speaking_") so often that they evolved specific terminology. Let's hope it doesn't take OOP many centuries to accept that both "stricto sensu inheritance" (Liskovianly-correct) AND "lato sensu inheritance" are needed to do _our_ jobs!-)
Alex
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