On Aug 11, 2005, at 3:02 PM, Anthony Baxter wrote: > On Monday 08 August 2005 20:13, Ilya Sandler wrote: > >>> At OSCON, Anthony Baxter made the point that pdb is currently one >>> of the >>> more unPythonic modules. >>> >> >> What is unpythonic about pdb? Is this part of Anthony's presentation >> online? (Google found a summary and slides from presentation but they >> don't say anything about pdb's deficiencies) >> > > It was a lightning talk, I'll put the slides up somewhere at some > point. > My experience with pdb is that it's more or less impossible to > extend or > subclass it in any way, and the code is pretty nasty. In addition, > pretty > much everyone I asked "which modules in the std lib need to be > seriously > fixed" listed pdb first (and sometimes first, second and third).
One thing PDB needs is a mode that runs as a background thread and opens up a socket so that another Python process can talk to it, for embedded/remote/GUI debugging. This is what IDLE, Wing, and WinPDB (haven't tried it yet <http://www.digitalpeers.com/pythondebugger/ index.html>) do. Unfortunately, most of the other Python IDE's run interpreters and debuggers in-process, so it makes them unsuitable for developing GUI and embedded apps and opens you up for crashing the IDE as well as whatever code you're trying to fix. -bob _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
