Michael Hudson wrote: > I _like_ the explanation of 'and' and 'or' as they are now. They are > basically control flow constructs -- and have to be to get > short-circuiting to work -- and adding a coercion to bool at the end > seems to add complexity, not reduce it (on some levels, anyway).
Agreed. However, Raymond and Brett seem to have some ideas about optimising the normal comparison bytecode without changing the semantics, which would be good. >>P.S. Simplifying "and" and "or" may create a need to introduce a >>conditional operator but that is a discussion for another day. > > > ... which was in the past, I thought. C'mon, PEP 308 was fun for everybody };) The ease of writing buggy code when trying to fake a conditional operator using and/or does seem to cause the question to keep coming up despite the fate of PEP 308, though. But the only way I can ever see a conditional operator happening is if Guido simply selects which of the top 4** PEP 308 solutions he likes best and says "make it so!". Cheers, Nick. ** I say top 4, because there was daylight between the votes for the first 4 choices and all of the other PEP 308 options. And many of the pros and cons of those 4 choices are so subjective that I wouldn't expect further discussion to significantly change anyone's opinion. -- Nick Coghlan | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Brisbane, Australia --------------------------------------------------------------- http://boredomandlaziness.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com