On 17Apr2018 0246, Oleg Sivokon wrote:
> It is common practice in corporate networks that connect MS Windows ...

> If you are referring to Python on Windows, this was never true. We've
> always relied on OpenSSL and at best will read locally installed
> certificates (and by default, most certificates are not locally
> installed). This should not have changed recently, and certainly not
> with the bug you reference.

I was simply parroting whatever our IT people told me.  I don't use MS Windows, 
and know very little about administration of this OS.  I'll be happy to tell 
them what you just wrote.

> I'm asking that this be made configurable / possible to disable using simple 
> means, perhaps an environment variable / registry key or similar.

> I'm not clear on what you're asking for. The only thing we can disable
> is reading OS certificates into OpenSSL, and that would be the opposite
> of what you are having trouble with.

I'm still investigating what the actual problem was, and what exactly changed.  
It might have been related to PyPI using new hosts, but, to be absolutely 
honest, pip and similar tools don't make it easy to debug this problem.  The 
problem with these tools is that they lose all context information about SSL 
errors, so it's not possible to know what the exact problem was.  Setting up a 
development environment on MS Windows to try to debug Python interpreter in 
order to discover this information so far has been frustratingly painful (it's 
been about a decade since I used MS Windows for anything related to 
programming).

> PS. I still cannot register to the bug tracker (never received a confirmation 
> email), this is why you are reading this email.

> I would guess it ended up in a junk mail folder, though that may be
> controlled by your organization rather than anywhere you can get to it.
> Perhaps using an alternate email address will be easiest?

No, it was simply never received (maybe it was somehow filtered out by the MS 
Exchange filters, I know very little about it, but it never made it to my 
mailbox).  Whatever the case, I will never know that because, apparently, our 
IT are either too lazy or don't know what they are doing...
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