On 05.06.2018 3:09, Matthias Bussonnier wrote:
This may even be a bug/feature of IPython,
I see that inspect.signature(timedelta) fails, so if timedelta? says
Init signature: timedelta(self, /, *args, **kwargs)
Then this may be some IPython internal logic. The timedelta class seem
to use __new__ instead of __init__ (not sure why)
Because it's an immutable type.
and __new__ have a meaningful signature,
So maybe we should fallback on that during signature inspection.
According to
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4374006/check-for-mutability-in-python ,
there are no reliable tests for mutability.
Feel free to open an issue on the IPython repo.
Btw IPython is uppercase I, and we don't want any troupe with the
fruit giant.
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On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 at 16:30, Chris Barker via Python-Dev
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On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 3:27 PM, Victor Stinner
<vstin...@redhat.com <mailto:vstin...@redhat.com>> wrote:
For Argument Clinic, have a look at
https://docs.python.org/dev/howto/clinic.html
Thanks Victor -- scanning that page, it is indeed where I needed
to look.
You can also try to copy/paste code from other files using
Argument
Clinic and then run "make clinic" to regenerate the generated
files.
good idea.
Now to find some time to actually work on this...
-CHB
Victor
2018-06-04 23:45 GMT+02:00 Chris Barker via Python-Dev
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> Over on python-ideas, someone is/was proposing literals for
timedeltas.
>
> I don't expect that will come to anything, but it did make
me take a look at
> the docstring for datetime.timedelta. I use iPython's ? a
lot for a quick
> overview of how to use a class/function.
>
> This is what I get:
>
> In [8]: timedelta?
> Init signature: timedelta(self, /, *args, **kwargs)
> Docstring: Difference between two datetime values.
> File: ~/miniconda2/envs/py3/lib/python3.6/datetime.py
> Type: type
>
>
> That is, well, not so useful. I'd like to see at least the
signature:
>
> datetime.timedelta(days=0, seconds=0, microseconds=0,
milliseconds=0,
> minutes=0, hours=0, weeks=0
>
> And ideally much of the text in the docs.
>
> I've noticed similarly minimal docstrings on a number of
builtin functions
> and methods.
>
> If I wanted to contribute a PR to enhance these docstrings,
where would they
> go? I've seen mention of "argument clinic", but really
don't know quite
> what that is, or how it works, but it appears to be related.
>
> Anyway -- more comprehensive docstrings on buildins could
really help
> Python's usability for command line usage.
>
> Thanks,
> - Chris
>
>
>
>
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