On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 at 19:08, Nathaniel Smith <n...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 10:32 Antoine Pitrou <solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 09:49:32 -0800
>> Nathaniel Smith <n...@pobox.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > There are a lot of challenges to switching to a "standard distribution"
>> > model. I'm not certain it's the best option. But what I like about it is
>> > that it could potentially reduce the conflict between what our different
>> > user groups need, instead of playing zero-sum tug-of-war every time this
>> > comes up.
>>
>> There is no conflict between what different _user_ groups need.
>> Including lz4 in the stdlib will not create a conflict for people who
>> prefer numpy or cryptography.
>
>
> Some users need as much functionality as possible in the standard download. 
> Some users need the best quality, most up to date software. The current 
> stdlib design makes it impossible to serve both sets of users well.

... and some users need a single, unambiguous choice for the
"official, complete" distribution. Which need the current stdlib
serves extremely well.

> The conflict is less extreme for software that's stable, tightly scoped, and 
> ubiquitous, like zlib or json; maybe lz4 is in the same place. But every time 
> we talk about adding a new package, it turns into a flashpoint for these 
> underlying tensions. I'm talking about the underlying issue, not about lz4 in 
> particular.

Agreed, there are functional areas that are less foundational, and
more open to debate. But historically, we've been very good at
achieving a balance in those areas. In exploring alternatives, let's
not lose sight of the fact that the stdlib has been a huge success, so
we know we *can* deliver an extremely successful distribution based on
that model, no matter how much it might trigger regular debates :-)

Paul
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